Fs Or Trade :: 93 Ford Probe Gt - Customized
06-24-2003, 08:08 PM
#21
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I'd pimp that car. We had a probe at the shop I used to work at... the e-brake in that thing kicked ***, it's not as good now, but it was badass.
06-24-2003, 08:16 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by 96zeN20' date='Jun 23 2003, 06:33 PM
Motorracer what do you drive? 
since u dream bout rx-7s meanin ur prolly dont have one, or a car even closely equal to one. any way, ill come and defend the probes, there underestimated, engine swap + N20, with full interior low 13s, o yeah, and thats only 2k into then engine and were runnin with unmodded rx-7s. any way, ill disagree that probes look better then 3rd gens, but 1st 2nd gen rx-7s arent very pretty, realiable and fast, but not pretty.
and for all you rx-7 guys, most of you should have some extra money and need a DD to keep miles off the 7s, a probe is probably the best bang for the buck, cant beat a low 15sec car stock for around 3-4k.
and for all you rx-7 guys, most of you should have some extra money and need a DD to keep miles off the 7s, a probe is probably the best bang for the buck, cant beat a low 15sec car stock for around 3-4k.
06-24-2003, 09:29 PM
#24
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my engine is a KLZE engine, and i have a 75 shot of NOS nitrous and i have all the usualy boltons and a UR pulley kit.
not any car with a swap is fast....... hondas, always slow. but thas besides the point, 2nd gen rx-7s, when taken care of and not raped on constatly, have a good rep for being reliable and lasting long times. im actually looking into buy a turboii so that i can use minimal money and have a super fast DD, and build the probe up. and i think the turboii are just cool.
just wait till i get the ***** to run a 100shot, ill be in the low to mid 12s with all of that, but i dont kno how much my engine will like that, being that its a big bitch to get fuel for our engines, having lil to no aftermarket sucks
not any car with a swap is fast....... hondas, always slow. but thas besides the point, 2nd gen rx-7s, when taken care of and not raped on constatly, have a good rep for being reliable and lasting long times. im actually looking into buy a turboii so that i can use minimal money and have a super fast DD, and build the probe up. and i think the turboii are just cool.
just wait till i get the ***** to run a 100shot, ill be in the low to mid 12s with all of that, but i dont kno how much my engine will like that, being that its a big bitch to get fuel for our engines, having lil to no aftermarket sucks
06-24-2003, 09:38 PM
#25
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Originally Posted by 96zeN20' date='Jun 24 2003, 06:29 PM
my engine is a KLZE engine, and i have a 75 shot of NOS nitrous and i have all the usualy boltons and a UR pulley kit.
not any car with a swap is fast....... hondas, always slow. but thas besides the point, 2nd gen rx-7s, when taken care of and not raped on constatly, have a good rep for being reliable and lasting long times. im actually looking into buy a turboii so that i can use minimal money and have a super fast DD, and build the probe up. and i think the turboii are just cool.
just wait till i get the ***** to run a 100shot, ill be in the low to mid 12s with all of that, but i dont kno how much my engine will like that, being that its a big bitch to get fuel for our engines, having lil to no aftermarket sucks
not any car with a swap is fast....... hondas, always slow. but thas besides the point, 2nd gen rx-7s, when taken care of and not raped on constatly, have a good rep for being reliable and lasting long times. im actually looking into buy a turboii so that i can use minimal money and have a super fast DD, and build the probe up. and i think the turboii are just cool.
just wait till i get the ***** to run a 100shot, ill be in the low to mid 12s with all of that, but i dont kno how much my engine will like that, being that its a big bitch to get fuel for our engines, having lil to no aftermarket sucks
Yeah, a hatchback civic or CRX with a b18c swap is slow...
So is the NSX..slow car
ITR...slow car
Yup, not any car with a swap is fast ESPECIALLY not a Honda huh?
And dont jump all over me for defending Hondas, most honda's i see are rice, SOME however are fast and some have the potential to be extremely fast. Not necessarily my ride of choice but that still doesnt detract from the fact that SOME Honda's when done right can be extremely fast, even if they do look ugly as hell.
06-24-2003, 10:09 PM
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a civic with a h22a swap, (h22a being probably the stronges motor that can fit in a civic) will run mid 13s with out some type of f\i
dont belive me, heres one for sale http://www.probetalk.com/forums/showthread...adid=1701043069
any way, b18c = suck *** engine by itself, now with some type of f\i it can be beastly, but again just a straight swap ur only seein about an extra 20-30 hp, and same mount of tq
the US pgt is 164hp, the ze engine is 200hp, thats around 40 extra hp, just the swap i would be in the low 14s and with weight reduction id be in the high 13s, and using a 100shot will def bring me into the 12s, there have been plenty before me, and will be plenty after me.
the nsx,ITR are slow. ne thing over 12seconds is slow. show me a street legal civic in the 12s, doubt there is one.
dont belive me, heres one for sale http://www.probetalk.com/forums/showthread...adid=1701043069
any way, b18c = suck *** engine by itself, now with some type of f\i it can be beastly, but again just a straight swap ur only seein about an extra 20-30 hp, and same mount of tq
the US pgt is 164hp, the ze engine is 200hp, thats around 40 extra hp, just the swap i would be in the low 14s and with weight reduction id be in the high 13s, and using a 100shot will def bring me into the 12s, there have been plenty before me, and will be plenty after me.
the nsx,ITR are slow. ne thing over 12seconds is slow. show me a street legal civic in the 12s, doubt there is one.
06-24-2003, 10:50 PM
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H22A isn't the swap of choice because it weighs so much more than the B18. On top of that it really doesnt have that much of a higher output than the B18, it has a lot more torque but at that point the weight penalty pretty much nullifies that advantage.
CRX's and Civic Hatches, i'm not sure on the exact figure but they have like 100ish hp stock.
The B18C which is the Integra GS-R engine has like 170+ something with like 123 ft-lb of torque which is quite a bit more horsepower, almost double the amount. And yeah i messed up a bit i admit on the 12 figure, its more like mid high 13's without any nitrous or turbo, barely add those though and your in the 12's easily. And when i was talking about the B18 swap i forgot to mention that that included i/h/e. I know tahts only partial information but honestly, who does an engine swap and leaves the stock exhaust and exhaust manifold and headers in?
Anything over 12 seconds is slow? And on this one i'm assuming you mean stock becuase NSX's and ITRs can get into the 12's with a lil bit of F/I. Anyways by that statement do you mean to tell me that the FD is slow? The 300ZX TT is slow? The Supra TT is slow? The 3000GT VR-4 is slow?
There are actually street legal civics in the 12's but what do you mean by street legal? And honestly what kind of term is that, street legality varies from state to state. Something being street legal in Cali and something being street legal in Wyoming are two very different things, hell a lot of people here's cars arent street legal in the fact that they dont have cats. In fact even if your car passes emissions in California if you have certain non stock mods that arent CARB approved you still dont have a street legal car no matter how little and how insignificant that mod is. I think street driven is a more proper term and there are plenty of those.
CRX's and Civic Hatches, i'm not sure on the exact figure but they have like 100ish hp stock.
The B18C which is the Integra GS-R engine has like 170+ something with like 123 ft-lb of torque which is quite a bit more horsepower, almost double the amount. And yeah i messed up a bit i admit on the 12 figure, its more like mid high 13's without any nitrous or turbo, barely add those though and your in the 12's easily. And when i was talking about the B18 swap i forgot to mention that that included i/h/e. I know tahts only partial information but honestly, who does an engine swap and leaves the stock exhaust and exhaust manifold and headers in?
Anything over 12 seconds is slow? And on this one i'm assuming you mean stock becuase NSX's and ITRs can get into the 12's with a lil bit of F/I. Anyways by that statement do you mean to tell me that the FD is slow? The 300ZX TT is slow? The Supra TT is slow? The 3000GT VR-4 is slow?
There are actually street legal civics in the 12's but what do you mean by street legal? And honestly what kind of term is that, street legality varies from state to state. Something being street legal in Cali and something being street legal in Wyoming are two very different things, hell a lot of people here's cars arent street legal in the fact that they dont have cats. In fact even if your car passes emissions in California if you have certain non stock mods that arent CARB approved you still dont have a street legal car no matter how little and how insignificant that mod is. I think street driven is a more proper term and there are plenty of those.
06-24-2003, 11:06 PM
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06-25-2003, 04:21 AM
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This new guy is a ******* moron...either GenD or ban the troll.
06-25-2003, 06:34 AM
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wait how am i a moron or troll? cuz i dont like hondas, wait is this the honda board again????
yes anything over 12s is slow, just my opinion, a stock z06 corvette is a 12 sec car
anyway, stock civics have 125-145 stock hp, depends on the model and year. and i think the Sis have like 160hp stock. an ITR hitting 12s with minimal boost\nitrous, not gonna happen, they run 14s stock, so idunno bout that.
by street legal i mean on pump gas and with street tires, and not some tube out drag race only trailer bitch car. o well, i never came in here to bash 7s, i love em, but whatever.
most swaps ive seen are a b16 block, b18 head, supposedly its lower compressin and can handle more boost who knows. late
yes anything over 12s is slow, just my opinion, a stock z06 corvette is a 12 sec car
anyway, stock civics have 125-145 stock hp, depends on the model and year. and i think the Sis have like 160hp stock. an ITR hitting 12s with minimal boost\nitrous, not gonna happen, they run 14s stock, so idunno bout that.
by street legal i mean on pump gas and with street tires, and not some tube out drag race only trailer bitch car. o well, i never came in here to bash 7s, i love em, but whatever.
most swaps ive seen are a b16 block, b18 head, supposedly its lower compressin and can handle more boost