What do you guys think of this Drag car setup?
10-09-2005, 07:35 PM
#1
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Wasn't sure where to post this, but since there has been some good discussions about PP's here, I thought I'd try here.
Over the winter I am wanting to start building my 84 FB into an All-motor drag car for the street class. I have a setup in mind for the car, now I'm wondering if it will work...... I'm asking the guys who are experienced with PP's.
Since I'm wanting to run the car in the street class, it must have full interior from the drivers seat forward, retain stock suspention and appearence.
So heres my proposed setup:
Chassis:
84 FB wieghing in at 2100lbs with driver
GSL-SE rear diff with 4.88 final drive
8 point roll cage
FC turbo 5 speed tranny with a custom drive shaft
Engine:
13B PP using RX-8 10:1 rotors milled out for stock Mazda 2mm seals
Genie header into single 3" with 1 resonator and straight through muffler
Custom made individual slider throttle bodies mounted as close to the rotor housing as possible
Electric in-line water pump
12lb OS Giken flywheel and twin disc clutch
Controlled by Microtech LT8s
Now heres a few questions:
What size injectors should I be looking for?
Where should I place the injectors? before or after the throttle bodies?
Will the lightweight flywheel help, or be a disadvantage? Or should I just get a stock flywheel and good clutch?
Any idea's what kind of power this setup could be capable of making or quarter mile times?
Any suggestions to make this car a capable of running high 11's (thats the goal)
Thanks
Joe
Over the winter I am wanting to start building my 84 FB into an All-motor drag car for the street class. I have a setup in mind for the car, now I'm wondering if it will work...... I'm asking the guys who are experienced with PP's.
Since I'm wanting to run the car in the street class, it must have full interior from the drivers seat forward, retain stock suspention and appearence.
So heres my proposed setup:
Chassis:
84 FB wieghing in at 2100lbs with driver
GSL-SE rear diff with 4.88 final drive
8 point roll cage
FC turbo 5 speed tranny with a custom drive shaft
Engine:
13B PP using RX-8 10:1 rotors milled out for stock Mazda 2mm seals
Genie header into single 3" with 1 resonator and straight through muffler
Custom made individual slider throttle bodies mounted as close to the rotor housing as possible
Electric in-line water pump
12lb OS Giken flywheel and twin disc clutch
Controlled by Microtech LT8s
Now heres a few questions:
What size injectors should I be looking for?
Where should I place the injectors? before or after the throttle bodies?
Will the lightweight flywheel help, or be a disadvantage? Or should I just get a stock flywheel and good clutch?
Any idea's what kind of power this setup could be capable of making or quarter mile times?
Any suggestions to make this car a capable of running high 11's (thats the goal)
Thanks
Joe
10-10-2005, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by banzaitoyota' post='767946' date='Oct 10 2005, 04:17 PM
"Genie header into single 3" with 1 resonator and straight through muffler"
Genie makes a Rotary Header?
Yes. Its actually wildcat but sold as genie. I'll take a picture of one tomorrow and post it.
10-10-2005, 08:35 PM
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Yeah Genie has a Wildcat N/A header for 12A or 13B.
I'll be ordering it through MosiRacing, he has a groupbuy for Genie headers on the Protege forum.
Hey superdave....I have the exact same car as you...91 Protege GT!!!
I'll be ordering it through MosiRacing, he has a groupbuy for Genie headers on the Protege forum.
Hey superdave....I have the exact same car as you...91 Protege GT!!!
10-10-2005, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by R.P.M.' post='768112' date='Oct 10 2005, 09:35 PM
Yeah Genie has a Wildcat N/A header for 12A or 13B.
I'm curious to see what the header looks like
AND, what size peripheral ports you are going to use..
10-10-2005, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by R.P.M.' post='768112' date='Oct 10 2005, 09:35 PM
Yeah Genie has a Wildcat N/A header for 12A or 13B.
I'll be ordering it through MosiRacing, he has a groupbuy for Genie headers on the Protege forum.
Hey superdave....I have the exact same car as you...91 Protege GT!!!
I'm 1/3rd of MOSI Race Dynamics
Haha awesome. Is it your winter beater?
Odd, first you buy my old car (colins black gxl) now you have a car just like mine? Stop stalking me!!!
10-10-2005, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by teknics' post='767935' date='Oct 10 2005, 12:10 PM
but for beginners, stick with the stock flywheel, lightweight isnt as good for drag racing,
How so?
The heavy flywheel might make for a harder launch if everything is just right, but then the rest of the run (everything after the clutch stops slipping at the 'tree!) will be worse off than with a lightweight flywheel.
10-11-2005, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by heretic' post='768148' date='Oct 10 2005, 11:43 PM
How so?
The heavy flywheel might make for a harder launch if everything is just right, but then the rest of the run (everything after the clutch stops slipping at the 'tree!) will be worse off than with a lightweight flywheel.
ive basically heard of the whole "off the line" thing. the heavier flywheel results in more momentum or something.
i cant debate the issue cause im fuzzy on it myself, figured someone else would chime in, especially since i know its widely debated.
kevin.
