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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Wasn't sure where to post this, but since there has been some good discussions about PP's here, I thought I'd try here.



Over the winter I am wanting to start building my 84 FB into an All-motor drag car for the street class. I have a setup in mind for the car, now I'm wondering if it will work...... I'm asking the guys who are experienced with PP's.



Since I'm wanting to run the car in the street class, it must have full interior from the drivers seat forward, retain stock suspention and appearence.



So heres my proposed setup:



Chassis:

84 FB wieghing in at 2100lbs with driver

GSL-SE rear diff with 4.88 final drive

8 point roll cage

FC turbo 5 speed tranny with a custom drive shaft



Engine:

13B PP using RX-8 10:1 rotors milled out for stock Mazda 2mm seals

Genie header into single 3" with 1 resonator and straight through muffler

Custom made individual slider throttle bodies mounted as close to the rotor housing as possible

Electric in-line water pump

12lb OS Giken flywheel and twin disc clutch

Controlled by Microtech LT8s



Now heres a few questions:

What size injectors should I be looking for?

Where should I place the injectors? before or after the throttle bodies?

Will the lightweight flywheel help, or be a disadvantage? Or should I just get a stock flywheel and good clutch?



Any idea's what kind of power this setup could be capable of making or quarter mile times?



Any suggestions to make this car a capable of running high 11's (thats the goal)



Thanks

Joe
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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well sorry to be brief, im at work, but for beginners, stick with the stock flywheel, lightweight isnt as good for drag racing, so ive heard im sure a billion people will say no but, meh.



kevin.
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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"Genie header into single 3" with 1 resonator and straight through muffler"



Genie makes a Rotary Header?
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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It's available in Canada through (at least) Northern Motorsports in Hamilton, ON











Joe what size peripheral ports are you looking to run?
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by banzaitoyota' post='767946' date='Oct 10 2005, 04:17 PM

"Genie header into single 3" with 1 resonator and straight through muffler"



Genie makes a Rotary Header?


Yes. Its actually wildcat but sold as genie. I'll take a picture of one tomorrow and post it.
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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Yeah Genie has a Wildcat N/A header for 12A or 13B.

I'll be ordering it through MosiRacing, he has a groupbuy for Genie headers on the Protege forum.



Hey superdave....I have the exact same car as you...91 Protege GT!!!
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by R.P.M.' post='768112' date='Oct 10 2005, 09:35 PM

Yeah Genie has a Wildcat N/A header for 12A or 13B.






I'm curious to see what the header looks like





AND, what size peripheral ports you are going to use..
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by R.P.M.' post='768112' date='Oct 10 2005, 09:35 PM

Yeah Genie has a Wildcat N/A header for 12A or 13B.

I'll be ordering it through MosiRacing, he has a groupbuy for Genie headers on the Protege forum.



Hey superdave....I have the exact same car as you...91 Protege GT!!!


I'm 1/3rd of MOSI Race Dynamics



Haha awesome. Is it your winter beater?



Odd, first you buy my old car (colins black gxl) now you have a car just like mine? Stop stalking me!!!
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by teknics' post='767935' date='Oct 10 2005, 12:10 PM

but for beginners, stick with the stock flywheel, lightweight isnt as good for drag racing,


How so?



The heavy flywheel might make for a harder launch if everything is just right, but then the rest of the run (everything after the clutch stops slipping at the 'tree!) will be worse off than with a lightweight flywheel.
Old Oct 11, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by heretic' post='768148' date='Oct 10 2005, 11:43 PM

How so?



The heavy flywheel might make for a harder launch if everything is just right, but then the rest of the run (everything after the clutch stops slipping at the 'tree!) will be worse off than with a lightweight flywheel.


ive basically heard of the whole "off the line" thing. the heavier flywheel results in more momentum or something.



i cant debate the issue cause im fuzzy on it myself, figured someone else would chime in, especially since i know its widely debated.



kevin.



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