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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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After tearing down the engine due to a coolant leak, we discovered this small spot on the rear of the e-shaft which obviously suffered friction and excessive heat. It's been slightly ground down already but the discoloration due to friction is still present. The shop isn't worried about it but I'd like to know WHAT would cause this as there's nothing there to rub against it. All bearings were fine except for the rotor bearing on that journal which had a very thin scrape around the outside edge due to the e-shaft. All other bearings looked brand new as did that bearing on it's main face. What do you guys think?
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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 05:45 PM
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Here's a closer shot...possibly just dirt contamination?
Old Aug 26, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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hmm maybe it got nicked on assembly? or maybe a peice of something got in there?



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Old Aug 26, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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the heat discoloration ring surrounding the spot leads me to believe there was either something in there or the shaft was rubbing against something but for the life of me, I can't figure out what.
Old Aug 26, 2003 | 06:02 PM
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Looks nasty. I wouln't use it. Maybe insuficient lubrication? What oil do you use? Probably got nicked on assembly.
Old Aug 26, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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Royal Purple 20W-50. E-shaft checked out and was in spec. Oil pressure is great. Shop says it won't be a problem but I'd like to know the cause.
Old Aug 26, 2003 | 08:05 PM
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Where the needle bearing fucked up? If so they could of caused that when the needle bearing got smashed between the e-shaft and the spacer or washer.
Old Aug 26, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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You know I didn't check...I'll look tomorrow.

Thanks for the tip!
Old Aug 27, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by toddp31' date='Aug 26 2003, 05:05 PM
Where the needle bearing fucked up? If so they could of caused that when the needle bearing got smashed between the e-shaft and the spacer or washer.
He said this was the rear of the e-shaft not the front. How does the planetary gear of the rear rotor look? (the inside of the rotor as that's right where the teeth are)



Possibly there was some contaminant in the teeth of the gear & it got squeezed out with the assy lube.



Unless the e-shaft end play could've been too tight.



If the rotor bearings were new then there could've been an imperfection in it from the pressing proceedure which imediately was wiped clean, but caused the damage seen...
Old Aug 27, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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I'll check that out swerve, thanks for the head's up. Yes it was the rear too meaning no needle bearing assembly. Wasn't thinking :-)



What determines e-shaft end play? Bearing size?



Rotor bearings were brand new.



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