My Large Extended Ports
05-31-2005, 11:31 PM
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How do you have the hoses clamped on there now?
I have a buddy that drills 2 small holes on either side of the clamp and tightens them in place with self tapping sheet metal screws(through the hose). Or you could have someone put spot welds around the outside of the pipe so the hose grips the pipe better.
BTW good luck
I have a buddy that drills 2 small holes on either side of the clamp and tightens them in place with self tapping sheet metal screws(through the hose). Or you could have someone put spot welds around the outside of the pipe so the hose grips the pipe better.
BTW good luck
06-01-2005, 07:50 AM
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[quote name='Nospig' date='Jun 1 2005, 01:43 AM']Im with Bill on those figures, seen a few not so true dyno figures round. Try another dyno. Exhaust ports look good, but inlets dont look like they would support more than 450rwhp.
What ecu are you using?
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Maybe it's pics quality the inlets are as big as a street port can go both pri & sec
ecu is the apexi pro
What ecu are you using?
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Maybe it's pics quality the inlets are as big as a street port can go both pri & sec
ecu is the apexi pro
06-01-2005, 10:46 AM
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[quote name='Nospig' date='Jun 1 2005, 02:43 AM']Im with Bill on those figures, seen a few not so true dyno figures round. Try another dyno. Exhaust ports look good, but inlets dont look like they would support more than 450rwhp.
What ecu are you using?
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What the hell are you talking about those ports look like they will support no more than 450rwhp. Please I've seen motors making over 500rwhp with smaller intake and exhaust ports than those. It's all about putting together the right parts and it's all about the tuning. You probably can't make 450rwhp on low boost settings but you will definetly make that at higher boost pressures. Hell there are guys out there in excess of 600rwhp with a 13B and a streetport be it that they are pushing 28psi+ boost.
What ecu are you using?
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What the hell are you talking about those ports look like they will support no more than 450rwhp. Please I've seen motors making over 500rwhp with smaller intake and exhaust ports than those. It's all about putting together the right parts and it's all about the tuning. You probably can't make 450rwhp on low boost settings but you will definetly make that at higher boost pressures. Hell there are guys out there in excess of 600rwhp with a 13B and a streetport be it that they are pushing 28psi+ boost.
06-01-2005, 05:00 PM
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Ari at Rotary Performance made 620 rwhp a few years ago on a stock port Mazda rebuilt engine. He ran 26 psi of boost and a 75 shot of nitrous and still didn't blow it up in 1 season of drag racing. That is impressive but goes to show that you can't judge power potential off of what a port looks like.
06-01-2005, 05:17 PM
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[quote name='rotarygod' date='Jun 1 2005, 02:00 PM']Ari at Rotary Performance made 620 rwhp a few years ago on a stock port Mazda rebuilt engine. He ran 26 psi of boost and a 75 shot of nitrous and still didn't blow it up in 1 season of drag racing. That is impressive but goes to show that you can't judge power potential off of what a port looks like.
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now i don't know the details of Ari's car, but i will go on record in agreement with the second half of this statement. you can't judge a port's potential based on how it looks.
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now i don't know the details of Ari's car, but i will go on record in agreement with the second half of this statement. you can't judge a port's potential based on how it looks.
06-02-2005, 07:00 AM
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[quote name='BNA_ELLIS' date='Jun 2 2005, 07:18 AM']I'll be back on a dyno in a few weeks to finish off anyway. Hopefully before I go back to the strip which will be 18th June as I want a 10 sec pass.
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Good luck with it Brian,
Paul
P.S. Get that water injection set up properly
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Good luck with it Brian,
Paul
P.S. Get that water injection set up properly
06-02-2005, 07:42 AM
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[quote name='BNA_ELLIS' date='Jun 1 2005, 04:50 AM']Maybe it's pics quality the inlets are as big as a street port can go both pri & sec
ecu is the apexi pro
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Hi Brian,
Don't go off on one but................
I have built engines with bigger ports than that.You need to look at the porting a bit more to see there are still areas that can be gained.
Still your 12 second time is getting pretty good,just keep an open mind Brian,no good comes of closing off every thought that is put to you.
Your times and speed up the strip are where it all counts.
I hear that you were not allowed to run any longer on the Dyno cos the "Figures" were getting to close for comfort to the operators car???!!!
Regards
Carl
ecu is the apexi pro
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Hi Brian,
Don't go off on one but................
I have built engines with bigger ports than that.You need to look at the porting a bit more to see there are still areas that can be gained.
Still your 12 second time is getting pretty good,just keep an open mind Brian,no good comes of closing off every thought that is put to you.
Your times and speed up the strip are where it all counts.
I hear that you were not allowed to run any longer on the Dyno cos the "Figures" were getting to close for comfort to the operators car???!!!
Regards
Carl
06-02-2005, 10:25 AM
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[quote name='Kaboom!' date='Jun 2 2005, 04:42 AM']Hi Brian,
Don't go off on one but................
I have built engines with bigger ports than that.You need to look at the porting a bit more to see there are still areas that can be gained.
Still your 12 second time is getting pretty good,just keep an open mind Brian,no good comes of closing off every thought that is put to you.
Your times and speed up the strip are where it all counts.
I hear that you were not allowed to run any longer on the Dyno cos the "Figures" were getting to close for comfort to the operators car???!!!
Regards
Carl
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Yes I have areas to learn regarding engine porting. I listen to intelligent people who have built and continue to build good strong engines, and I put into practise what I have been taught. So far so good. Read the post properly you see I didn't close off a thought that was put to me. All Bill done is what he always does rubbishes anything anyone else achieves and makes out that his theories mean more anything else.
Yes I know you and him are buddies so go ahead agree with him. His mouth is obviously a better dyno than Geffs DYNO DYNAMICS as he estimates I only have 450fwhp, 450fwhp must be accurate why? because Bill said so.
Come on Carl lets not get down road of my one is bigger than yours that's not the topic here, what have the big ported engine you built done down the strip? as you said times & speed up the strip is where it counts.
Don't go off on one but................
I have built engines with bigger ports than that.You need to look at the porting a bit more to see there are still areas that can be gained.
Still your 12 second time is getting pretty good,just keep an open mind Brian,no good comes of closing off every thought that is put to you.
Your times and speed up the strip are where it all counts.
I hear that you were not allowed to run any longer on the Dyno cos the "Figures" were getting to close for comfort to the operators car???!!!
Regards
Carl
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Yes I have areas to learn regarding engine porting. I listen to intelligent people who have built and continue to build good strong engines, and I put into practise what I have been taught. So far so good. Read the post properly you see I didn't close off a thought that was put to me. All Bill done is what he always does rubbishes anything anyone else achieves and makes out that his theories mean more anything else.
Yes I know you and him are buddies so go ahead agree with him. His mouth is obviously a better dyno than Geffs DYNO DYNAMICS as he estimates I only have 450fwhp, 450fwhp must be accurate why? because Bill said so.
Come on Carl lets not get down road of my one is bigger than yours that's not the topic here, what have the big ported engine you built done down the strip? as you said times & speed up the strip is where it counts.