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Old 02-22-2004, 02:20 PM
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Rotor Heads,



What end Irons (without the "O" ring grooves) have the biggest port runners in



stock form. Which Center Iron has the biggest runners.



I need the year and engine model of each, and Part numbers if you have them.



I need to build a monster 12A bridge port for next year.









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Old 02-22-2004, 02:35 PM
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'74-'75 front and rear, and '83-'85 intermediate. I'm sure others will have differing opinions.
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Old 02-22-2004, 03:20 PM
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Do they HAVE to be without grooves? Couldn't you just fill them with Devcon?
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Old 02-22-2004, 06:01 PM
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The early 12A centre (we know it as the R5 Tallport) has 50mm high runners. Most of the endplates I have seen all have the same runner size, but the popular one for J-porting here is the 3B early 13B plate because it takes less work to fill the water jacket with Devcon.



As an aside, why not try and find a cheap 13B-RE out of the J-spec JC Cosmo. The runners are enormous: endplate runners are like a 6-port endplate with the material between the 5th and 6th ports removed; and the centre is tallport size. Of course, they have the o-ring grooves, so you would need matching rotor housings. The best housing for them would be from the 89-91 TII. Use a set of 89-91 N/A rotors with the shaft and counterweights from the 13B-RE as they are the same balance but 9.7:1 compression. Have them milled for 3mm apexes if you are going carbon, or stay with 2mm and go ceramic.

That is a recipe for a hell engine if built right.
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I think he has to keep it a 12A for the class.
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Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Feb 22 2004, 01:20 PM
Do they HAVE to be without grooves? Couldn't you just fill them with Devcon?
Funny this should come up I was thinking about this exact same thing the other day.. except I was thinking of doing it to a housing not an iron, any reason it wouldn't work? obviously you need to make it pretty flat... but other than that I can't see any reason it wouldn't work.
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Do all the coolant passages still line up?
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Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Feb 22 2004, 04:28 PM
Do all the coolant passages still line up?
i think so, cant say i ever checked though
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Well I just checked my '84-'85 13b housing against my '86 one, they all line up, there are some minor differences though, although I can't see those effecting the performance of the cooling system at all though.



Hmm interesting.. because I have a mint '85 housing that i'd really quite like to use in my '86 engine if there aren't any really bad problems im not thinking about.
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