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Old 01-02-2004, 02:03 AM
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Here's where I'm at. I can tilt the int. housing to the right, but nowhere near where it needs to be to come out.
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Old 01-02-2004, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by lsnapcasel' date='Jan 2 2004, 12:03 AM
Here's where I'm at. I can tilt the int. housing to the right, but nowhere near where it needs to be to come out.
Hit the intermediate housing with a mallet on the corners of it to pry it loose. Did you perchance warp the rotor housing from overheating? The dowel pins may be stuck preventing the engine from coming apart easily.



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Old 01-02-2004, 02:16 AM
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Dowel pins are out, motor had stuck apex seals, and I can freely spin the int. housing if I so desire. I can also see in between the rotor housing and the front housing, so I know those aren't stuck together also. I tried hitting the flywheel side of the shaft and also the pulley side with a mallet and it will only move maybe 1/16" - and that is only if I remove the six bolts holding on the gold plate (in first pic)
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Old 01-02-2004, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lsnapcasel' date='Jan 2 2004, 12:16 AM
Dowel pins are out, motor had stuck apex seals, and I can freely spin the int. housing if I so desire. I can also see in between the rotor housing and the front housing, so I know those aren't stuck together also. I tried hitting the flywheel side of the shaft and also the pulley side with a mallet and it will only move maybe 1/16" - and that is only if I remove the six bolts holding on the gold plate (in first pic)
I have an idea here --



That gold plate you are referring to is called a thrust plate. It's a plate that separates the pair of needle bearings that swing over either side of the plate where the endplay spacer is (it's in the middle between the bearings and the centre of the thrust plate. Remove the 6 bolts, remove the thrust plate, needle bearing and thrust washer, then see if you can remove the front gear.



Once you do, see if the eccentric shaft moves up and down with respect to the front rotor and its bearing. If it's seized from an oil failure, the front bearing on the rotor may've locked up. Another possibility, if you can't get the gear off, is the bearing on the front gear may've seized to the crankshaft as well.



Keep plugging away at it.



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Originally Posted by BDC' date='Jan 2 2004, 12:41 AM
Another possibility, if you can't get the gear off, is the bearing on the front gear may've seized to the crankshaft as well.
That's gotta be it. I've removed the thrust plate and the corresponding bearings and only then can I get a slight amount of movement (1/16") I'll try soaking it in some WD40 and see if that helps. What kind of movement should I be expecting? Should I be able to simply slide off the front housing like I did with the rear, or only enough movement to get the int. housing off the e-shaft?
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Originally Posted by lsnapcasel' date='Jan 2 2004, 01:06 AM
That's gotta be it. I've removed the thrust plate and the corresponding bearings and only then can I get a slight amount of movement (1/16") I'll try soaking it in some WD40 and see if that helps. What kind of movement should I be expecting? Should I be able to simply slide off the front housing like I did with the rear, or only enough movement to get the int. housing off the e-shaft?
Wacky. Wonder if you spun a bearing. Oil starvation or mega-high rpm's?



I forgot to add one note -- if the gear is stuck to the crank shaft via a "welded" bearing, then it'll prevent you from doing anything. You won't be able to separate the intermediate housing off.



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in that first pic of yours, you have the spacer on the eshaft, that must be stuck on there jammed thats why the eshaft is nto sliding out fo the front gear. u might have the spacer stuck on the shaft try to take off that spacer, if it deosnt come out then u just spun it. which means the only easy wasy to take it of is grab it with somethign such as robogrips and tryign to twist it or just grabbign the eshaft from the other side of the engine and bang it toward yourself a few times till that spacer slides out.
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Did you remove all the dowel pins? it's easy to remove the upper ones but the lower ones are a bit harder and you need a special tool. (a pulley with a threaded end) If all the dowel pins are removed(4 of them) then just tap on the side housing and the center plate will come apart with the e-shaft. If it doesn't happen, then you have a bearing seized like BDC stated.
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I've mushroomed the front ends of two E shafts that had welded bearings. They can be seperated, but it takes an act of congress if you've never done it before.
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Old 01-02-2004, 12:33 PM
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Ok, so in the first picture the six bolts are holding on the thrust plate to the "gear" correct? I can get the thrust plate off and all respective bearings within, but that "gear" behind the thrust plate (what the thrust plate bolts into) won't move at all. Not round and round, not in and out. It's got two little "pins" holding it from rotating that you can somewhat see in the first pic (small holes in thrust plate). It looks like I need to get this off before the e-shaft will go anywhere. I'll try and get a better picture of it.
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