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drftk1d 03-09-2005 11:30 AM

lovely car, it it.

Jeff20B 03-09-2005 01:58 PM

12A and GSL-SE pickup tubes are the same.



Nice project. heretic is very correct; stiffen that chassis!

wotary 03-09-2005 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff20B' date='Mar 9 2005, 11:58 AM
12A and GSL-SE pickup tubes are the same.



Nice project. heretic is very correct; stiffen that chassis!


I forgot to add that I have 12 feet of 3x1" square tubing in 16ga to make subframe connectors and reinforce frame rails



There's also an autopower reinforced (2 extra bars welded on) rollbar in the rear



http://www.rotaryz.com/albums/200502...0149.sized.jpg

renns 03-09-2005 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff20B' date='Mar 9 2005, 11:58 AM
12A and GSL-SE pickup tubes are the same.

Jeff, thanks for checking that. I could have sworn I saw the two side-by-side at one point...must be getting old!



Wotary, looks real nice! I've owned three 240's, but they all biodegraded up here in Canada. It is truly a classic design, but unfortunatley rust prevention was a new concept for Datsun in the early 70's.



What's the feeling from the Datsun/Nissan crowd wrt the swap? Do you get the same hassles the non-rotary rx guys get?

Jeff20B 03-09-2005 11:25 PM

I have both. One '84-'85 12A (lighter rotating assembly and an undrilled boss for the 12A turbo oil return in the front cover), and one GSL-SE tube. Exactly the same. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png I will of course have to check it against an '83 or older tube, but I'm very sure they'll still be the same.



Edit: perhaps heretic will know when the front covers were changed to include the turbo oil return. It was either '83 or '84 when they changed. Come to think of it, it was probably '83 since the rotors were changed as well as the flywheel, 225mm clutch, 'beehive' oil cooler etc.

j9fd3s 03-10-2005 12:29 AM

part numbers for the 81-83 front cover 1480-10-600a, 84-85 12a n231-10-600b, and the gsl-se is n304-10-a60.

heretic 03-10-2005 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Jeff20B' date='Mar 9 2005, 09:25 PM
IEdit: perhaps heretic will know when the front covers were changed to include the turbo oil return. It was either '83 or '84 when they changed. Come to think of it, it was probably '83 since the rotors were changed as well as the flywheel, 225mm clutch, 'beehive' oil cooler etc.



Except it seems to have been 1984. If any 1983 models went through with the boss in the front cover, they would have been produced very late in the model year. There are other, somewhat obvious differences between a 1983 and a 1984 engine, depending on its level of assembly.

rx7will 03-10-2005 11:50 AM

Hey Wotary, i have that primary rail spacer. I think i sold you some injectors from a fd. Call me at 415-205-0386. You can come and pick up the spacer. I have no use for it.

wotary 03-10-2005 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by renns' date='Mar 9 2005, 04:53 PM
What's the feeling from the Datsun/Nissan crowd wrt the swap? Do you get the same hassles the non-rotary rx guys get?


Well, I'm over on hybridz.org, and the guys there don't frown on anything... I've seen Zs with...



nissan vg30det, vg30dett, vq30de

nissan l28et (turbo inline 6 from a 280zxt)

sr20det

ca18det

rb20/25/26det/tt

turbo buick gn lc2

chevy 4.3/350/355/383 sbc motors, lt1, ls1, ls6

chevy 396/454 bbc

small block ford, 289, 302, 351 cleveland/windsor (i know, one's a bigblock)

mopar 318, 340, 360, 440, 426 hemi

jag v12

bmw inline6, v12

toyota 1jz-gte, 2jz-gte, 7mgt

i think there's a guy attempting a a mitsu 2 liter turbo swap



there's even a guy doing an electric motor swap, and there was a guy with a biodiesel turbo Z. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png Now, zcar.com guys... they'll complain about anything that's not nissan in Z!



rx7will: yeah, that was me. I bought 850 secondaries off you, but I wound up not using them. I sold them for what I paid for them, I couldn't really make them work in a stock RE rail. I opted to get Marren 1680cc injectors to run as secondaries instead.



I can't pick up the spacer this weekend - i'll be out of town, but my gf lives in the city, so I can swing by next week to grab it if that's cool with you. I'll give you a call when I get back, and thanks again!

Jeff20B 03-10-2005 03:19 PM

Ah, so it really is '84-'85 (for the most part) with a 12A turbo oil return. Cool.


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