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Old 04-22-2003, 12:21 AM
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I've heard both good and bad things on both Viton and Silicone. Stock can't handle a radiator or water pump failure. I haven't checked if Mazdacomp makes a higher temp version. Has anyone tried or have any knowlege on the Teflon ones?
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Old 04-23-2003, 09:52 AM
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I've got stock ones in my engine now. If someone were to give me a set for free, then I'd put them in. Other than that, I've never heard of anybody in Japan losing an engine to an O-ring....now to apex seal failure, that's common
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I just bought a complete set of viton o-rings which I am going to try, it set me back about 80 canuck bucks to for the entire set for the motor, I took all the factory o-rings to an o-ring shop and got them to set me up with all the o-rings...

The outer water seal is rather large and has to be made from bulk stock, I am going to bond it with cyanocryalate(crazy glue) and put the join in a dry area of the housings, along with a dab of silicone at the join....Maxt
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Huh? If I don't have to rebuild, what do I care if the o-rings are reusable or not? If they are not rebuilding for o-ring failure in Japan, then what do they know that we don't?
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Old 04-25-2003, 07:46 PM
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oring failure depends on maintenance!



change your coolant once a year and you should not have coolant seal failure for a very long time
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Old 04-25-2003, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by knonfs' date='Apr 25 2003, 04:34 PM
Where do you get the whole O-ring failure? They aren't prone to failure unless overheating.........
That's my whole point!!! Overheating is a bigger problem then Apex Seals. We get bigger intercooler, vented hoods, etc. You allready know the Apex Seals are a wearable part, just like a timing belt in a pisston engine. The difference being the price of replacement. The same kind of damage can be done with a broken timing belt as a broken apex seal.

Replacement of the Apex seals is expected. Failure of the O-Rings is not!
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Old 04-25-2003, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by vosko' date='Apr 25 2003, 04:46 PM
oring failure depends on maintenance!



change your coolant once a year and you should not have coolant seal failure for a very long time
I don't think that's true also. I think it's "preventative" maintenance. I plan on heat cotaing as many parts as possible. My rebuild was about 1.5 yrs ago. I was also running royal purple ice.
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There was some chatter on an airplane engine site on what type of o-rings. They commented on using aluminum or copper solid wire, similar to copper o-rings in the V-8 racing engines, also a teflon coated wire. Just put the splice at the intake with a little red RTV. They did say this would be more of a race application and couldn't say on its longivity.

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thats interesting about the copper and whatnot



But yeah, is there any difference between the O-Rings available for 13Bs that anyone should care about? I mean anything important or reliability improving, etc.
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the renisis uses the same o rings as every other post 86 engine. the only reason the fd oens fail, is because of the turbos being right there.



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