rfreeman27

Well I went on friday night. I might go out again (sat).



Every time i drift I get better. I am doing it on an industral park road, so there isnt much chance of gettting cought. Truckers were watching us and clapping if we did a good one, it was funny. I spun once into the grass. Scared the crap out of me. The turn has a slight elevation change (down) if you enter it sharply. I hit that, and there was no chance getting control back.



Its getting easier, but its still tough. I put my stock wheels on the back with the **** tires, so it was oversteer happy. (255 s0-3's on the front, 225 **** on the back)



I might go again tonight. I am going to keep the 285's on, because we are going to cruse some mountain passes (its so much like initial D its scarry...except the crazy *** drifting)

Drift_It

as for penelties here, my friend got a wreckless driving ticket for sliding around in a parking lot after a rain.

mazdized

Here is how I taught myself. First do the power over thing and drift out exiting the corner. Next try to exit and drift earlier and start to drift earlier as well. In mean while try to change speed and line while in the drift and hold the drift off throttle or on brakes, this is when I spun out the most. Last the hard part is to oversteer before going into the corner, that is when I run off the pavement and spun off again. In a lot you can do the big donut to small donut or small donut to big donut. Try figure 8 or couple donuts into figure 8 then some more donuts. Next I tried down shifting while holding the drift, braking and slowing down a lot in a drift. The last recent thing I learned was feint before a drift. I know I had to get choko dories down before I can feint so I spend a morning trying to dori. I think what help me is that I knew I had to have a learning objective every time. I know what I need to learn today so I will try to do it based on how I think it is done. If I am having a hard time and can not see for myself what I am doing wrong I will ask for help from some one who can do it. I spent nearly three hours trying to dori and by after noon I can do it for as long as I want and link it into just about any drift I wanted. Funny thing was that it took me 4 tries to get 360s down and link it into a drift, I thought the 360 into drift would be harder than dories but I was wrong. My next objetive is to start the drift as early as I can and ride the brakes or e brake as hard as I can so I can learn how to slow down from high speed entrance.

wile_e_coyote

Powerslide is when you just stomp the gas through a turn, and the *** swings wide as you exit.



Drift on the other hand, is getting the *** to swing wide before you enter the turn, hold the *** out attitude (the car's attitude silly, not yours), and then power out of the turn relatively straight.



Best tip? Put a cup holder in your car, drive up and down a mountain as fast as you can and don't let it spill.



Okay, seriously, just drive your car around in a parking lot and try everything.



Get the car to swing wide using throttle and brake manipulation. The side-brake technique is the easiest to use I think. Try this for a simple one corner drift.



Turn in to the corner, and YANK the hand brake. This should upset rear traction enough, along with the weight transfer with your turn in to get the wheels spinning. YOU ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE APEX YET. Get on the gas smoothly, you're probably gonna wanna heel toe to a lower gear for more torque to keep the wheels spinning. You're gonna want to start countersteering now. The rear of the car has come around, and the countersteer is to prevent you from spinning out. YOU ARE APPROACHING THE APEX NOW. Use smooth modulations of the throttle to adjust the rear of the car, steer the front of the car around the apex. Keep the front wheels pointed out away from the apex dude - the front of the car should still be on the proper racing line. YOU JUST PASSED THE APEX - AND PROBABLY WONT CRASH ANYMORE. You're going to try and get the back of the car behind the car now - steer the front to follow where your rear wheels have been trying to go, and shift back up. The counter-steer puts the momentum of the front wheels back in the same direction as the momentum of the rear of the car, and the upshift brings your rear wheels back in check from all that spinning. YAH BABY! YOU DRIFTED! WOO HOO! go celebrate now before you crash.



That is the newbie style drift in a simple corner.



Drive safe, and SHINY side up.

wile_e_coyote

oh crap, I forgot, when I said, "YANK the hand-brake" I meant to YANK it hard, and then put it back down. DONT leave it up. hahaha. Just in case someone gets confused.

Triniwarrior31

front wheel drive cars dont drift right?

wile_e_coyote

I don't know if I'd call it drifting in the sense that all the people nowadays call it drifting, but FF cars can get the rear ends loose and slide them around corners. I really don't know too much about it. I just figured you'd have to be coming in REAL hot (fast) into a turn to keep the rear sliding without having any engine torque to keep the wheels spinning in the back.





I've seen cars drifting on rally videos, and I'm sure the cars are FF.



Believe it or not, drifting does actually have a purpose in racing. FR cars often have an advantage over FF cars because you can control both the front and back wheels to turn in a FR car. FF cars can control it to a very limited degree using left-foot braking and side-brakes. By drifting a car, you can control a cars attitude in a turn to set up the weight transfer and momentum for the next turn.



I dunno if drifting is the fastest way around a race track though -- looks cool though. Drifting is great for rally cars because not only are these cars gonna be sliding sideways anyway because of poor traction, but also sliding pushes the cars wheels deeper to where there is more traction. At least thats what the Scandenavian guys say about driving in rallys.

YukiRX7Aisha

Drifting has given me a slight edge in races(yes, street, call me irresponsible >_<) on backroads, especially if the person behind me when I go into one completely FREAKS as I'm kicking around the turn.



As far as speed and time is concerned, does a drift improve your time? Well, yes and no. Depends on the area, I guess....if it was an EXTREMELY tight run with a shitload of very tight, hard hairpin turns, then yeah, it would shave a LOT off, instead of slowing to a near stop and cocking the wheel ALL THE WAY AROUND to take it.



But in a sense, drifting can give you a slower time than just taking the apex, but like I said, it all depends on the area ^_^

pengaru

you can drift a fwd car, it's just hard to get a fwd car into an oversteering attitude which is pretty much required to get into a drift. You can get hard on the brakes and gas simultaneously which will get the *** end to brake loose thanks to the engine torque countering the front brakes, giving you oversteer (less traction at the rear).

7th Heaven

I think that's debateable. A high displacement NA car can catapult out of corners by going slow in, fast out. But it may be more effective for a car that depends on a turbo.