I was just at a driving school today (Evolution) and the instructors were telling me that the SCCA just raised the minimum weight of a B-Prepared RX-7 400 lbs!!!



It seems the TurboII (Steve O'Bleans) that has kicked everyones ass at the Nationals these last two years has caused some concern amongst the Corvette crowd. So they raised the weight limit to basically its stock weight. If I remember correctly the min. weight was 2300 so not it will be 2700. To put this in prespective my TII weighs 2690 and has a full interior and is not stripped down at all it even has A/C!! While the Corvettes are allowed to strip their cars down.



It seems the can't beat them ban them attitude has prevailed again.





I wonder if it ever occured to any of those boneheads that maybe its just Steve O'Bleans driving skill that caused him to crush everone else 2 years in a row??



Good news for me is I can run my Street car next year at the Nationals.

Thats what I love about the SCCA (SPORTS CAR COMMUNISTS of AMERICA)!!!!

That is utter horseshit! 400 pounds??? That's like having a ******* Grizzly bear riding shotgun https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683800.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683454.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683431.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/violin.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/argue.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/ar.gif

yes they are the nazis of racing

I Posted up on the SCCA Forum and got this answer.



There are 4 options for the BP classs:



1. Do nothing leave everything as it is.



2. Raise the min weight of the RX-7 400 lbs.



3. Lower the Coverttes weight. I do not know how much.



4. Riase the RX-7s weight AND lower the corvettes weight.





There seems to be some concern since an RX-7 won 2 years in a row that no one else is going to step up and try to beat it. I.E. the corvette *****'s. So the SCCA feels it is neccesary to keep things interesting by penalizing a particular car to the point that it will be taken out of contention and then all the corvette assholes will be happy again.



Go look at last years results. Super Stock has like 40 Corvettes and a Viper and a BMW M-3. A-Street Prepared is all Covettes.



I am guessing if its not a Corvette it is not allowed to win.



I bumped out of ASP on purpose due to the rules that allow the Corvettes to have over 200 HP more than me. I was not allowed to have a boost controler and that single rule keeps me out of contention. So I went to BP so I can be competative and possible win. Now this crap.

That's re-goddamn-diculous. If your car isn't winning, build a better car and/or become a better driver. What's next, no turbocharged 7s?

Go with the grizzly bear co-pilot option. Should be VERY useful during further rule discussions. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



I've got 25 preparation points with a stock suspension and the engine has never been out of the car. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png I'd like to see someone do that with a Corvette.

Now that would be gay..

Next thing you know they're going to have to add some cinder blocks in the back of the stock 7s just to make it more "fair".

I just got my new issue of Sportscar Magazine and the Fasttrack news now reports an amendment to the rule change in the BP class. They are now proposing the min weight of the RX-7 Turbo to be 2500lbs up from 2200 lbs. And they are proposing to lower the corvette min weight by 100 lbs.



Just for referance. My TII weighs 2620 with my racing rims and tires. I have not done any weight reduction to my car at all. The BP class is for stripped down cars, no interior no a/c lexan rear window no side windows etc.. you get the picture. The BP Corvettes are stripped down like this and can easily have over 500 HP and torque about the same.



Steve Obleans was rumored to have been about 100 lbs too heavy last year and weight about 2300-2350 lbs. He will now have to add 150-200 lbs to his dedicated race car.



I have to remove 120 lbs from my daily driver that has a/c and a full interior.



I am looking for an e-mail address that will get us in touch with the decision makers in the SCCA. I will post it and I urge all of you to express how you feel about these proposed changes.



Trust me the Corvette guys obviuosly have been at work here. Like its not enough they have SS locked up and ASP has just enough rules to keep RX-7's out of contention. BP is the only place we can race and dominate and not be choked to death with rules. Now they are trying to change that. Dont get me wrong I like good competition but the rules in ASP are obviously made to keep the Corvette in 1st place and I am sure the Vette guys had a lot to do with it.



Look for an e-mail address soon.

Thats bullshit. Screw those guys, all the non-vette guys should just stop showing up for events and start up something different. Let the vettes play by themselves if they want to make up rules as they go.

I did some research.



The new proposed weight for the Corvette is 2650. The new proposed weight for the RX-7 is 2500.



Here is something cool. They are leaving the Porsche 944 Turbo alone. Thier Min. weight is 2200 lbs. I know for a fact there is a BP Porsche here in Florida that has well over 400 HP running 18 PSI boost.



So it looks like a Porsche win at the next National event. I might even consider building a 944T for the next nationals. Lets see more horsepower more torque and 300 lbs. lighter. Tough decision.



I hope they name this new rule change the Steve O'Blean since he is the RX-7 driver that clobbered everyone 2 years in a row and seems to be the reason for the rule change.



The E-mail for the SCCA is SBA@scca.org



I think it would be a good thing to e-mail them and tell them you think it is unfair to add a weight penalty to a car just because a good driver has showed up at the Nationals.



I have been up against my share of "National Champions" and I am now positive that the National Championship is not a gathering of the best drivers in the SCCA it is mearly a gathering of the well to do that can afford to be there. A majority of them are hacks that can barely keep their cars under control yet they have a National title. I point to the Mazda-rev-it up competition in Miami as an example. I am a newbie to Autocross and do not totally understand car control yet. When I went head to head in Miami against many multi-national champs in the same car on the same course I beat all of them except 2. One of the 2 that beat me is the winningest driver in the SCCA today. He is actually a good driver one of the few I have encountered in my short stint as an Autocrosser.



I am going to start a new thread and hope to start a e-mail campaign to stop these rule makers.

If you write a letter to the SEB, I'd advise that you be as objective as possible, and provide as much unbiased data as you can. Writing a letter and ranting that you think the proposed changes sucks isn't going to go very far. Use power/weight now vs. the proposed change or some other measurable parameter to support your argument.



Steve has been very dominating the last couple years, but frankly the top Corvette's have not been at Nationals to dispute things. That makes the perception of the RX7 being an overdog that much stronger.

Honestly AMRX7 I dont care if they add the weight. I weigh 2620 right now. I actually drive in Autocrosses with my Bazooka tube in the car still. Its my good luch charm. I frequently come up against the AP Cobra that took 1st at the Ft. Meyers Pro Solo this year and continually win or loose by 100ths. I feel my car can be very competative at 2500 lbs.



I feel bad for guys that have built Bp RX-7s this year to now have to add all that weight back to their cars.



AMRX7 is right do not rant. It will only agitate the SCCA and honestly when they get a hard on they get their way.



I still think the car to race next year is a Posche 924T.

I don't care what the "car of the year" is. I auto-x to enjoy myself, despite the SCCA's best efforts to piss everyone off

This really pisses me off. Many times I've had to accept the fact that the car I own just isn't competitive in its class (I've had many cars) but I've always just sucked it up and had fun anyway. Some cars dominate and some suck, if you are serious about winning you have to go buy a competitive car to start with, its just that simple.



Changing the rules because a lowly rx-7 is beating a corvette SUCKS!

I heard that they are doing this so that a 10yr old + car is the "the car to have" IE they want to have newer cars winning (help car companies sell product, even though they are supposedly not sponsored by car companies). If this is the case why don't they just have a "classic" class for the slightly older cars. They have been doing this in motorcycle club racing for a long time and it has worked very well.