My car's got a Cusco front strut bar, Tokiko 5-way adjustable struts with Eibach pro-line springs...what else do you think I need to drift?



Aftermarket LSD and a rear-strut bar?

you can drift on the stock lsd but you really need a good one 1.5 way or better. cusco's are real good. so are kazz

Do you think I should get a rear strut bar before I do? To prevent any body flex? I only mess around, it's not like I go at it for like 20 minutes...cops would get me! @_@



Can I even drift with the current setup? I don't want to be a one-wheel wonder..

A rear strut bar would help althogh it isnt a necessity you can do some slides without it.

If that's your car in your sig, you should have a clutch type LSD stock.

you don't have to have a rear strut bar but if you do better with one use it...each persons drift setup is diffrent. find what you can work with. yes and a better clutch is good too

any car thats rwd, jesus you people act like you need ******* d1 prepped cars. drift that ****, you'll be better when you get the real **** you need.

actually the LSD is a requirement.... before suspension in my opinion. The stock diff sucks unless you have a s4GTX which is mechanical and work pretty nice.



The other stuff you can use later.

I dont know what you guys are talking about the T2 diff is suppose to be better than the stock FD one.

The only real requirements for drifting are a lot of patience and balls. Any stock car can do it, however it will be more challenging the more stock your car is.



To make it somewhat more possible to break traction, I would recommend upgrading the LSD; putting in a good coilover suspension, stiff springs will still give body roll; get some good brakes all around.



Other stuff for later on: 2 extra wheels, cause you don't want to use tires with no tread when you drive around town; a place that will give you a quantity discount on tires; a nice bucket seat to keep you firmly panted.

If you are gonna turn circles in a parking lot you might get away with a stock diff for a while but if you want to DRIFT then you will need a LSD at least a 1.5 way. You can drift of stock suspension it just sucks and the car rolls around like crazy. It is not fun or pretty but can be "done". If you are gonna "race" or drift it would be better to build the car right from the ground up rather than just throwing parts at it.



If you are just playing around then it really don't matter. Get a real Diff otherwise you cant even talk about drifting. This is the advice of the infamouse Keichii. so quit making up stuff and get a diff and some suspension and a bucket seat.

Huh?





-Ted

Huh?





-Ted

Actually, the more stock the car is, the easier it is.

Skinnier tires break-away more progressively.

Stock suspensions break-away more progressively.

The tighter you make everything, the higher the stick, but it breaks away a lot more abruptly.





-Ted

Well, it's just my personal preference then. I'm just not a big fan of the tire rubbing against the fender while I'm trying to maintain a slide. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blush.png

Thats in terms of strength. S4 t2 > fd

you need to be japanese

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this thread has been a good read. i think Ranzo has some really good first hand knowledge that should be listened to but like someone said earlier in the thread, each drift setup is different.

He has a red S4 TII in his signature. I was saying that it should already have an LSD.



Edit- NM, it looks like a S5. The front bumper looked like a S4 at first. Still should have an LSD.

It's pretty easy to tell whether it's a LSD - just turn one wheel and have someone try and turn the other wheel in the opposite direction, if it's a LSD then it should be quite hard to do. There are other methods, but this is the simplest and most effective.



Mark

do a burn out?

yeah do a burnout and check

burnouts work well. just make sure there aren't any cops in the area. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Put one tire in gravel and one on pavement.........like the side of the road? and then try your burnout. If both whells turn then it has some sort of LSD if just the one in the dirt turns well you got yourself a one wheel wonder.

or a one wheel peel as we call it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png depressing

Or you could look on the pumpkin and right where you drain diff fluid and put new **** in, it should say LSD. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

how bout the fact that an S4 T2 has a clutch-type LSD stock, and the 89-up 7's have a viscous LSD. viscous is the shitty one cause you have to heat up a thick fluid to make it stick the plates inside the dif together. the fluid breaks down relatively quikly and Voala.... one wheel wonder.

thats when you let the fluid low so it seizes

thanx for the info, instead of going out and buying a new diff , i can keep the one i got. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

My car is an '88.



The tail-lights simply came from an S5.



That's why my front bumper is S4.



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Yeah, it definitely FEELS like a clutch-activated LSD.



I can swing it out without much trouble, but I get scared to just hold down the gas, so when I let off the gas, it twitches in the other direction and then I just kinda straigthen myself out.



I'm such a puss. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif

I'm no Keiichi Tsuchiya...you won't see me pulling any kansei dorifto's outta my ass or anything. LoL. I'm still just trying to get used to the car. Plus, it's hard to upshift in my car thanks to the bushings in the shifter being M.I.A or K.I.A.



lol

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif if its hard to shift then. u shood slam that **** into gear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif

i thought that was s4 trim https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif



Yeah you'd be better off to rebuild that diff than to replace it with an aftermarket.



Autocross your drift car as well so you can get mazdaspeed discounts from.



www.mazdamotorsports.com

One thing that will help with steering angle and geting deep more aggressive drift angles is tie rod ends. My friend got the SuperNow tie rod ends and he said it was like night and day.



I am prolly going to make a purchase with them shortly so if you would like a set let me know pm or email me at sikokillr@aol.com

how much did you guys pick them up for??

anyone know if i can get these in australia??



i just ordered them DTSS eliminators for my car n yeah just wanna make my car more better for drifting

you kids are talking about all these upgrades done to your cars to try and drift, all i have is race springs on a 91' gxl with some bolt on's. remedy to go sidways on any setup is to have balls and do it in the rain..... P.S alex you speak the truth...allen

The most important things to have when drifting are zip ties and a tow strap so you can put your car back together or get towed home when your done drifting.

Kids?..... whut yu talin bout willis!? What is race springs?? Bolt on's? Most everything bolts on in some way or another. As far as balls I am sure most people here have balls.......that is what will eventually get you in trouble. Bring your balls out to a competition and we will see what kids need to be in school.



Oh yeah Who is Alex??

my t2 is bone stock other then 3 1/2 turbo back and an afc dirfts awesome i still have rear steer and all You don't need any parts to get a car to drift just go out and drive the damn thing! once you drift you will see what parts you really need

Damn, I thought my exhaust was low!

Doesn't that thing hit every speed bump???





-Ted