FrestyleFC3S

thats like saying "hey one company makes tires, why would anyone else ever make a tire"



come on now, think a little, more people making, more variety, lower prices. its how the system works.



plus we're going to be cheap as possible considering im used to doing this stuff.



this is kevin by the way.

lane_change

Well unless you are going to build your own rails and line, which I doubt, you are going to simply buy the same stuff that anyone could buy and build them in bulk, and sell them......when companies like Bridgestone and Yokohama build tires....it is all new, custom, one of a kind....yours will just be built by a different person using the same parts.



I am all for it....I will be needing a new fuel system come spring anyways...so hell yeah, if you guys have a good system for a good price, I may be interested....I never said for you not to build one, just that they are available already....but if you have better prices, then you should build them and sell them.

FrestyleFC3S

we are building the rails, we are assembling pieces of fuel lines together. aka buying -6AN fittings and long lengths of S/S braided hoses and then assembling as needed in the best routes straight back to the gas tank access plate.



nothing will be premade, its all hand-fabbed, except the fittings themselves.



kevin.

93 R1

If I was to buy, I'd rather buy from someone/somewhere who has done the R&D and has a proven product...not some guys ******* around in their garage making the cheapest product possible.

lane_change

The majority of the **** is the same.....it is still Earl's line, aeromotive's filters, aeroquip's, fittings, SX's FPR, Bosch's injectors, Walbro's pump, etc....with the time and effort put into cutting line to the right length and attaching fittings. It may be different companies than listed above...but more or less, it is the time spent putting it together....kind of like buying an already built LEGO set. Except you said you were going to make the rails...which is cool, that is what Keith does as well and I know I am not going to build rails, so I will be buying rails again when the time comes for them.

93 R1

I'm fully aware of that.

teknics

and what R&D would you like exactly



"we here researched and found fuel does INDEED go through the lines, this was a startling discovery as we thought we should use solid lines at first"



just joking, dont get mad.



anyway im not just "******* around in my garage" if i was i'd be keeping it to myself. I work 11 hours a day at a shop, this would fit nicely into my time slots that i have no other work to do, so all work would be done with appropriate fittings with all safety measures taken, it took me 3 days to port a TB, not cause im slow, but because im thorough, its the only way to be safe and receive real results.



basically me selling these would be based on my level of respect from the buyers, chances are no one will buy it since no one seems to look past my "young kid" persona i've been tagged with.



kevin.

teknics

actually now im curious, what type of R&D do you want in a fuel system? ive been sitting here thinking and cannot possibly think of what to R&D on what is basically a fluid transfer system, it's like R&D'ing a straw.



i could measure GPM and PSI but we dont include the pump or FPR so those two measurements would all depend on the pump and FPR you choose.



now in the kit with the FPR and pump we'll say the stats of said items, and i guess we can test that it is possible to use them to their full potential in our lines, but thats all i can think of.



please dont think of this as me being an ***, im dead serious and dont joke around like that when it comes to something i'm building, so please if you seriously get mad or feel im talking down to you, just dont pay attention to it.



kevin.

FrestyleFC3S

:nod:

lane_change

I have a question then.....you are building the lines to go to and from the tank corrcet?



If so, then when you premake the line length, I assume it will be up to the buyer to get the bosses braized onto to the top of the fuel tank cover at the exact spot that they should be....as well as having to do all the wiring for the pump(s) in the tank...or will your systems use the stock wiring? When you run the line under the car, where do you plan on attaching it so that it does not hang or droop down...are you going to provide the fittings and brackets needed to secure the line? Will you be using an in-line filter or are you still planning on running it up to that hellish location above the diff? What kind of filter? Stock? Aftermarket?



What about the lines in the engine bay...will your system run in series or parallel? If you don't provide a FPR, then how would the buyer know where to mount the one he would have to buy? Will your line be made for a certain type of FPR? What size of line are you running to and from the tank? The FPR has to be 6" away from the firewall...where do plan on having people mount it to fit with a gauge?



This is the R&D that I am concerned about....tapping a piece of aluminum to accept a fitting is not alot of R&D....getting the posts right, so that the secondary and primary rail can both be top feed and both not leak when inserting the injectors into the motor is a bit tricky...either your posts have to be perfect...or you have to have spacers so that you can secure the rails and not change the angle of the fuel spray into the motor.