Anyway if u know anybody who has, did they like?

thanks

Khris

I don't know if anyone here has one but I know a few have taken one for a drive. I'm keen on one myself but haven't driven one yet.

I'm definetly interested in one, but I'm equally interested in the STI, RX8, Turbo Solstice and Challenger.. wewt

I drove one yesterday. If sport through and throughout is what you want, its definately what you get. The turbo comes on fast and hard, although there was a split second of lag between shifts. It pulls hard on boost. Felt more like a mid 13 second car, as opposed to the 14.0@99 mph road and track tested it at. May have been from the lag on shifts though.



The handling is awesome. The car is very tossable, feels very confident, and direction is modulated rather easily with the throttle. I was really suprised at how much even relatively small throttle movements could affect the line. It seemed nothing but planted and always eager hard through the twisties.



As for driving like an upright citizen, its no accord or camry. The turbo comes onto boost with all the subtlety of a kick to the face, making easy and smooth acceleration something you have to think about. Maybe it would fade with being more used to the car, but my time was limited. Its also not the quietest or smoothest riding car out there. But like I said, this is a sports car. This is your RX7 with room for 5.

i thought it was slow. felt as though the car fell on its face at about 5500rpms. i think i should drive it again.

Thanks, I might go and test drive and then deceide my mine, Rx7 might up in f/s if I like the 6.

khris

for the price i'd rather get a evo, sti, srt4, or colbat SS.

chevy and dodge don't compare to the STI, EVO or MS6 unless you take price into consideration... they american tuner cars are cheaper, but you get what you pay for.



The MS6 is a great car for the sport enthused mazda owner, but will not keep up with the new STI or EVO.



I personally don't like the MS6 only due to the size, it's too much like a camry (minus the sports car part) for me.. I'm personally waiting to see if they release the MS3. It's all there..the MS6 is using the mazda3 powertrain...so it's not like they don't have what it takes to put the whole deal into the smaller 3 body.. can anybody say 323 GTX? I can see the lil car from the 80s make a come back...

they also can't really compare because of the lack of awd. What is stopping them from doing a ms3 is probably price..why would they under cut their own product..unless they give it like a 150 hp engine. Its sort of like the altima se-r....that **** cost 30k...why not get a 350z, or a upper class maxima.

Some people buy a car for more than the HP number. And then some people drive f bodies...

I will buy it for look's and beside I am looking to get rid of the Rx7 for a more family car. also I am a die heart mazda fan, I hate toyota and honda, Infinite & Mazda is on my top list of cars.

Khris

have you ever drivin an 4th gen fbody...they handle surprisingly well and were cheap, not to mention the power. Some people buy over priced pig of a car because they are a brand loyalist. Its funny..that car weighs more than my car.... and my car is supposed to be a pig/gas guzzler. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Mazda claims they did not make the car to compete with the STI or the EVO, both of which to me look like a 19 year old kid took a econo box and went crazy with his dad's credit card to tune it.



The Mazda 6 is intended to be a sports sedan, once you drive one they really are not that big.



Just dont know what market they are shooting for with the car? I guess its for the everyday person who might also have a family who does not want to drive some small crude car and wants a little more power then your everyday sedan.



Only problem is the new Camry is going to be pushing 260+hp and they have restyled it to where it is not boring anymore, so any sales they were expecting to snatch from the #1 selling car might have been knocked down a bit. I would go so far as to say the aftermarket companies are going to be going crazy with the new camry, I bet they flood the SEMA shows with them.

Sat in one, it was very nicely laid out. And the TMIC looked yummy also!!



And for the price, I also would consider a Evo IX or STI. Just depends on other costs such as maintenance, depreciation values, and insurance costs. Also safety ratings, which they have probably not released yet.



EDIT: http://www.autoblog.com/2006/02/13/mazda3-...ebut-in-geneva/



mazdaspeed3 to debut in geneva. I like it!

thatd be me rob..

id have picked it up initially khris... already have the sixS...

attempted to get the speedsix last year but the trade value was seriously low..

low enough that the cost of money lost on the trade equates to headers and supercharger for the current six..

not to mention..ive got some mods that wouldnt be recuped... shes also 350lbs lighter than the speed...

considering she did well in her class in autox last year... only placing second right behind another six..

hard to justify the speedsix.. and the current issues theyre havin.. plus the premium fuel requirement..

What issues are they having and where can I find out more? One of my friends at work is seriously considering one.

i believe theyre in target with the legacy and 325ix.

Hey AMP u have mazda 6? What year and auto or manual? I thinking of speed6 because it have potential to make 300 barrier range which is what I am looking for, I also was looking at the G35x Sedan which is awsome imo.

khris

I think that it would be a great DD but I haven't driven or even seen one up close. Mississippi dealerships don't get sports cars.

This has been mentioned once, but I'll mention it again. The MS3 is going into production. Yay LSD, boo FWD. But the MS3 couldn't really justify AWD for it's target market. If you toss in the extra cost, you're going to approach EVO/STI costs, and they want to steer clear of that.



As for the MS6, I think it's a great car. I think they could've used the Duratec30 instead of that 2.3l with a turbo to push out more ponies (I drive a Taurus; some models have the same 'tec30 under the hood), but that's just wishful thinking, because then we'd have everyone over at the TCCA forums waiting for them to come out so we could steal their turbos and bolt them onto our motors.



Unfortunately, I think the MS6 is going to fade like the MSProtoge. I've heard rumors of the Legacy STI bring brought to US soil, and that (imho) would blow the MS6 away. Subaru is already known for their great AWD, and the Legacy STI has the same motor as the WRX STI I think.



It's a great dream, but I wouldn't consider buying one, but that may just be because I think that the car would need a bit of a diet first (it's almost 3600lbs stock).

the car is not meant to be some light weight boy racer car.

No, but I wouldn't qualify "sports sedan" as 3600 lbs. My Taurus weighs 400lbs less, and even then I consider that to be a little bulky. It might just be me, though....

what should they call it then?



just a plain sedan?

fat https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



im just saying that i don't think trying to compete with cars that are a couple hundred pounds lighter with better handling, etc, is going to help them win any customers

no offense...I don't think they are trying to compete witha ford taurus.... I still don't like it, but I think they are trying to compete with the audis g35x, volvos, saabs and the awd bmw. Where I think they are makinga mistake is..does that crowd who can afford those types of cars realyl drive a mazda..and on the flip side..the boy racer group who has grown up with rxs really want a bloated, understeering overpriced mazda 6..specially whne you get twice the performance from cars that are cheaper and in the same price class. I think they'll sell a few because you have all of those brand loyalists that will buy anything with a mazda logo on it...and maybe they'll sell a few to the people who can't afford the audis, bmws, saabs and volvos.

Ummm..I'm sorry Rob, but I don't know if I understand what you were trying to say. Were you saying that the MS6 is going to compete with the Camry? If that's the case, that doesn't make sense to me. Please clarify because I know I'm probably missing something obvious. :/

hey, don't go knockin' a taurus until you've ridden in a well-maintained gen1/2 SHO https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png it's no autox champ, but there's a reason that motor's called the Yamahammer https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png (or, if you're lucky, getting to ride in a turbo or s/c'd sho)

im saying they are not competing with the WRX and the EVO, so the fact that it weighs a few pounds more is not a factor because in theory people will buy the car who want more refinement.



Besides- insurance on a Mazda 6 is dirt cheap!



The new camry might take away some of thier sales though, the reliability and resale of the Toyota is very strong, even though it doesnt have AWD it does have 260hp V6 and is restyled

i've ridden in both..nice cars...but not the same league..althougha s/c or turbo might make change things.

lets compare new cars to new cars, not antiques

Ok, I better understand what you're trying to say, and I agree. MS6 insurance won't be the same as a reg 6, though, obviously.



I think the MS6's target market is riding a fine line between WRX/EVO (performance) and Lincoln/BMW (refinement, like you said). Do you know the pricing of the new Camry's? I wonder how it compares to the MS6.