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Rob x-7 07-01-2002 01:46 PM

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This is what it looks like, 377 CI small block twin turbo. Why dont more people use twin turbo on sevens anyhow??

Twin89Stangs 07-01-2002 01:56 PM

A buddy of mine has a 347 A4 blocked V8 with dominion heads an INCON twin turbo's with a BXR intake... wicked combination... incinerates the tires in 4th gear at a 40 punch! lol

245's dont like that much power!!

13BAce 07-01-2002 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jul 1 2002, 04:46 PM
This is what it looks like, 377 CI small block twin turbo. Why dont more people use twin turbo on sevens anyhow??

For alot of twin setups it would take a while to spool. A big single is also much easier to setup.

Twin89Stangs 07-01-2002 03:27 PM

On V8's use 2 medium size turbo's will be virtually no lag.... buddies has very lil if any... but then again the motor makes up for a large part of it... It feels pretty smooth. But you can hear those turbos spool up REAL WELL!! See the boost needle climb to 25lbs. Its crazy!



But it doesnt make 1000+ hp

13BAce 07-01-2002 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by Twin89Stangs' date='Jul 1 2002, 06:27 PM
On V8's use 2 medium size turbo's will be virtually no lag.... buddies has very lil if any... but then again the motor makes up for a large part of it... It feels pretty smooth. But you can hear those turbos spool up REAL WELL!! See the boost needle climb to 25lbs. Its crazy!



But it doesnt make 1000+ hp

What kind of transmission is he using? <_<

Twin89Stangs 07-01-2002 10:35 PM

Custom built T56 6 speed transmission.



Can get the Transmission company's name if you wish.



He had an Art Carr C4 tranny in it before the T56.

13BAce 07-01-2002 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Twin89Stangs' date='Jul 2 2002, 01:35 AM
Custom built T56 6 speed transmission.



Can get the Transmission company's name if you wish.



He had an Art Carr C4 tranny in it before the T56.

What did he do to the T56? What kinds of revs does it handle with that power?

Twin89Stangs 07-01-2002 11:00 PM

he doest dump it at high high rpms. But with the McCleod clutch (however ya spell it) It seems to hold up well. Been in there for about 1 and half years now I believe...



He custom ordered the T56 tranny from a company.. I forget the name but if your interested I can get ahold of him and ask.



But mainly... the gear ratios where changed. Not sure of what else was done to it. It obviously has a different bellhousing.



Actually he was trying to sell the car for a while...

high asking price!



1989 Mustang LX Hatchback

4 bolt main block

Central Coast 347 Stroker kit

8.4:1 compression

Dominion 4 valve heads (dont ask I dont know on those I had never even heard of them)

BXR intake

Incon Twin Turbo's (upgraded by TurboNetics I believe)

MSD Billet Distributor

MSD 7A ignition

MSD Blaster Coil E type

Saleen 11mm Spark plug wires

Iridium Denso Spark plugs (******* 97 bucks for 8 plugs!! OUCH)

Cobra Mass air Conversion

77mm C&L mass air meter

42lb fuel injectors

Steeda Fuel rails

270lph (I think) fuel pump

25 Gallon Race Tank

8 Point Roll cage

EGT gauge

Boost Gauge

Oil temp gauge

Oil pressure gauge

Tachometer

volt gauge

fuel pressure gauge

Rich lean gauge

Custom built 9.0 Ford Rearend with strange axles

Titanium pushrods

Bassani X pipe

Aluminum Driveshaft

95 GT cloth seats

Rear seat delete

A/C deleted

Rear battery installation

there is a lot more yet but thats just what I remember him having...



Funny thing about it...



It looks like a stock LX 5.0

It has pony wheels (yeah try driving on those tires! hahaha)

3 inch chrome pipes out the back (not dumps)

Cobra grill insert

3 inch cowl hood (because of the heads and the tall BXR intake)



So it looks like a 5.0 LX with a cowl hood and big chrome pipes...



Not what it sounds like. But a sleeper none the less...



though at night you see all the damn guages in it!

This car when he had the Art Carr C4 tranny in it wanted to rip the tires off the car at 7500 rpms!



lol he was asking 28 grand for this car..... The heads alone cost like 6 grand...

13BAce 07-02-2002 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Twin89Stangs' date='Jul 2 2002, 02:00 AM
he doest dump it at high high rpms. But with the McCleod clutch (however ya spell it) It seems to hold up well. Been in there for about 1 and half years now I believe...



He custom ordered the T56 tranny from a company.. I forget the name but if your interested I can get ahold of him and ask.



But mainly... the gear ratios where changed. Not sure of what else was done to it. It obviously has a different bellhousing.



Actually he was trying to sell the car for a while...

high asking price!



1989 Mustang LX Hatchback

4 bolt main block

Central Coast 347 Stroker kit

8.4:1 compression

Dominion 4 valve heads (dont ask I dont know on those I had never even heard of them)

BXR intake

Incon Twin Turbo's (upgraded by TurboNetics I believe)

MSD Billet Distributor

MSD 7A ignition

MSD Blaster Coil E type

Saleen 11mm Spark plug wires

Iridium Denso Spark plugs (******* 97 bucks for 8 plugs!! OUCH)

Cobra Mass air Conversion

77mm C&L mass air meter

42lb fuel injectors

Steeda Fuel rails

270lph (I think) fuel pump

25 Gallon Race Tank

8 Point Roll cage

EGT gauge

Boost Gauge

Oil temp gauge

Oil pressure gauge

Tachometer

volt gauge

fuel pressure gauge

Rich lean gauge

Custom built 9.0 Ford Rearend with strange axles

Titanium pushrods

Bassani X pipe

Aluminum Driveshaft

95 GT cloth seats

Rear seat delete

A/C deleted

Rear battery installation

there is a lot more yet but thats just what I remember him having...



Funny thing about it...



It looks like a stock LX 5.0

It has pony wheels (yeah try driving on those tires! hahaha)

3 inch chrome pipes out the back (not dumps)

Cobra grill insert

3 inch cowl hood (because of the heads and the tall BXR intake)



So it looks like a 5.0 LX with a cowl hood and big chrome pipes...



Not what it sounds like. But a sleeper none the less...



though at night you see all the damn guages in it!

This car when he had the Art Carr C4 tranny in it wanted to rip the tires off the car at 7500 rpms!



lol he was asking 28 grand for this car..... The heads alone cost like 6 grand...

Yeah, if you can find out that would be great.

bigtime 07-02-2002 11:43 AM

twin turbo isnt as nice as a huge single

13BAce 07-02-2002 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by bigtime1148' date='Jul 2 2002, 02:43 PM
twin turbo isnt as nice as a huge single

Not necessarily.

Twin89Stangs 07-02-2002 02:46 PM

Sweet i will give him a call and see what he says....

Twin89Stangs 07-02-2002 03:01 PM

Ok gave him a call...

He said its a T56 from D&D performance with different gear ratio's. He said nothing really special about it. But he did say he has an Aluminum Flywheel and he replaced the McCleod clutch with the more Common centerForce. Said the McCleod had a lighter feel to it and was a bit more streetable but that the Centerforce holds up better.



On a side note... he said the tranny is holding up fine but that he is considering switching to a Liberty 5 speed now.





Oh forgot their site here it is....



www.ddperformance.com



another thing I just noticed... my IP # changes....

13BAce 07-02-2002 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Twin89Stangs' date='Jul 2 2002, 06:01 PM
Ok gave him a call...

He said its a T56 from D&D performance with different gear ratio's. He said nothing really special about it. But he did say he has an Aluminum Flywheel and he replaced the McCleod clutch with the more Common centerForce. Said the McCleod had a lighter feel to it and was a bit more streetable but that the Centerforce holds up better.



On a side note... he said the tranny is holding up fine but that he is considering switching to a Liberty 5 speed now.





Oh forgot their site here it is....



www.ddperformance.com



another thing I just noticed... my IP # changes....

Thanks. I think that you can order a T56 with different gear ratios brand new. Not having to add stronger gears/bearings is a good thing. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Twin89Stangs 07-03-2002 12:45 AM

Welcome...

He does it drive it hard but he really doesnt rev it up and dump it... lol serves no purpose... He can sit at a light right now start out in 2nd shift into 3rd at 10mph plant the throttle to the floor and nothing but smoke... Crazy.... only does it on the 245's though....



But the tranny seems fine....

SnowmanSteiner 07-13-2002 02:52 AM

It is almost impossible to do a single turbo setup on a V8. Think about it the turbo would have to be exactly the same length away from all cylinders. So either the turbo would sit behind the engine, under the engine, or in front of the engine. With a twin turbo setup on a V8 it is usually two turbos of the same size.

rotarychainsaw 07-13-2002 01:54 PM

You could always go with the asymetrical turbo setup, just like the new Saab's.

Twin89Stangs 07-13-2002 01:57 PM

Snowman I think theres a guy on stlmustangs.com using a single turbo running off of just one bank of cylinders....

7mech 07-13-2002 04:28 PM

A friend of mine is running a single turbo on his 00 GT stang. If I'm correct allyou need to do is have a cross pipe, like in the Grand National, to bridge the gap between the banks.

Rob x-7 07-13-2002 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by 7mech' date='Jul 13 2002, 05:28 PM
A friend of mine is running a single turbo on his 00 GT stang. If I'm correct allyou need to do is have a cross pipe, like in the Grand National, to bridge the gap between the banks.

Its all in the headers, I have seen KOOKS make single turbo headers for V-8s.

Rob x-7 07-13-2002 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowmanSteiner' date='Jul 13 2002, 03:52 AM
It is almost impossible to do a single turbo setup on a V8. Think about it the turbo would have to be exactly the same length away from all cylinders. So either the turbo would sit behind the engine, under the engine, or in front of the engine. With a twin turbo setup on a V8 it is usually two turbos of the same size.

V-6, v-8 same thing with what your talking about, plenty of single turbo V-6 and V-8s right from the factory, Grand Nationals had them, Anniversary edition Trans ams had them in 1980, and in 1988, GMS Syclone/ Typhoon ( although its the same engine as the GN ) Here is a pic of the 1980 Pontiac 301 Turbo:


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