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kettlman 03-20-2006 07:14 PM

Well, just to let you all know that are curious. i guess i can post about this now cause i was told to wait til court was over with. i had a long day. court seems to take too long. was kinda funny cause the first case was about a couple old men and painting a house with 4 gallons of paint. that seemed to take a long time, yet was funny to hear. anyways back to the subject for those who need to know.





first off i'd like to THANK JEFF CLARK of Jeffs Auto for showing up as expert witness for me. he was real helpfull in explaining everything about the engine function to the judge. i don't wanna get into pacifics cause we were in there for awhile. but main ending was judgement was that I WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SO, POINT BEING DON'T BE AFRAID OF COURT. JUDGES ARE YOUR FRIENDS.

now i gotta admit i didn't get all i asked for. but the money wasn't the issue. as all who know me knows. it was about TAKING CARE OF CUSTOMERS. so this is all i have to say about it right now.

z-beater 03-20-2006 07:27 PM

Congratulations. I presume that the NW section will go back to normal now.

hondahater1979 03-20-2006 07:31 PM

Hell yeah good job! Lets see if things change now. Can you let us know what the judge said in the end as far as why he sided for you. Thanks.







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Codeblue 03-20-2006 07:34 PM

See now if they would just have looked at the motor in the first place, they probably would have saved some money, and still had some of us as coustomers... OH WELL



I bet Daves MMO pressure is off the scale........





Congradulations for representing us little people.....





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Hyper4mance2k 03-20-2006 07:39 PM

So what did you win?

spokanerxdude 03-20-2006 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by z-beater' post='808885' date='Mar 20 2006, 05:27 PM
Congratulations. I presume that the NW section will go back to normal now.







You mean there is a "NORMAL" for the nw section?

kettlman 03-20-2006 07:48 PM

was awarded $729. i guess the resons were it only had 1 month left on the warranty and a big reason was the use of the nos. yet the judge couldn't see or understand that nitrous is not horable. as unlike a supercharger shoving hot air into the engine. ( i meant to print this, ut didn't make time)



There are three points. First, nitrous oxide is comprised of 2 parts nitrogen and one part oxygen (36% oxygen by weight). When the nitrous oxide is heated to approximately 572F (on compression stroke), it breaks down and releases its load of extra oxygen, However, it is not this oxygen alone which creates additional power, but the ability of this oxygen to burn more fuel. By burning more fuel, higher cylinder pressures are created and this is where most of the additional power is realized. Secondly, as pressurized nitrous oxide is injected into the intake manifold, it changes from a liquid to a gas (boils). This boiling affect reduces the temperature of the nitrous to minus 127 Degrees F. This "cooling affect" in turn significantly reduces intake charge temperatures by approximately 60-75 Degrees F. This also helps create additional power. A general rule of thumb: For every 10 Degrees F. reduction in intake charge temperature, a 1% increase in power will be realized. Example: A 350 HP engine with an intake temperature drop of 70 Degrees F, would gain approximately 25 HP on the cooling affect alone. The third point, the nitrogen that was also released during the compression stroke performs an important role. Nitrogen acts to "buff or damper" the increased cylinder pressures leading to a controlled combustion process and better slower heat release.





so i screwed up. cause the judge was thinking that nitrous heated everything up. yet he listened to dave who didn't have or want to give the facts straight. oh well.

bstrange99 03-20-2006 07:52 PM

amatuers don't use NOS. I've seen you drive............you've got a heavy foot.



WAY TO GO KETTLEMAN. Stand up for what you believe, and good things happen. You've made a bigger statement than you know kettle. So has At*#ns.

rmriggin 03-20-2006 07:59 PM

I would have figured nore money awarded but it is good that this is "somewhat" over and that you have proved that the big guy doesn't win all the time. Atkin's got less that what was coming to them, but at least you won and hopefully they learned a lesson... They would have been out a heck of a lot less if they would have just stood behind their work.

hal 03-20-2006 09:05 PM

great job bro now i hope that everything will work out better for you in everything else now. Good luck on your house also allan


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