CantGoStraight

Well John, Jon, Ron, Ken, and the rest of the hulagins,

Have you seen the latest on the off topic list ?? Looks like Ian thinks he needs a lawyer to run this club for him. the main list has been screwed with again. You can no longer access the pictures, downloads, or polls. There still active on the off topic list but who would want to put pictures on there. I can't imagine belonging to a club where you run the risk of being sued if you don't agree with the PRbESaIDbENyT. This very well may be a NEW YEAR butt it's got old history taking it down.

dvls-7

Thats the MAIN problem. The apathy of the rest of the members. If someone was on the outside looking in they would swear that the only members in this club are the people that are posting. Karen stated that Ian is talking with the *general members*....thats funny, I thought we all belong in that caregory but yet I can say I have no idea of what these discussions are about.

Now the latest episode to this mess, is that there is now threats being made by Karen (Ians significant other) that lawyers are now getting involved. So lets see where this chapter takes us, its already gearing up to be comical.



Damian

Team140

Yes. I find the whole thing quite humorous. All we want is to have an election, but Ian does everything in his power to see that it either doesn't happen at all or it's delayed.



Hell, for all I know, he would win.



All I, and the club, wants is for an election to be held. Preferrably not rigged.

CantGoStraight

Woooooooooooooo Hooooooooooooooooooo. I'm not alone. There are more post, new threads and people are interacting................ok, not in a positive manor but interacting none the less ! ! ! ! ! The Bylaw thing is kind of a joke as they don't really stand for anything if only one person uses them for his gain only. Hell he even uses the club for his personel gain, Karen said so....it's his lively hood. This story has more turns than Deal's gap. Later, Jack

jdp3253

The bylaws are everything. If all these posts were concentrated on use of the bylaws by the members to resolve the situation, it would have been fixed by now. Instead, time is wasted on Ian this, and Brian that. All of which is BS and works to the advantage of he who wishs to maintain dictitorial power. Why? Because it detracts for the multitude of bylaws violations that have been and are being commited. I won't bore anyone with the details of the all the violations, but they are significant and I can list specifics.



Briefly, here is one course of action. Compile a specific list of bylaws violations and the action the members wish to take as a result of the violations. Present a case for reorganization, based on bylaws violations and potential resulting action, to the voting members in the form of a petition for revision, acceptence, or rejection. If a majority of the voting members concur, complete a final draft and have it signed by the members. Present the petition that details the action the members want taken to the President. A President can be removed by a majority of the members.



There, I threw out an idea for action. I'm sure there are others that have merit. Comment on my idea. Present others, but do let's something constructive, instead of whining like a bunch of school girls.



I willing to bet that no action will be taken, it's just easier to whine.



JP

CantGoStraight

The only problem I see, IS GETTING ALL THE PAYING MEMBERS TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE AT ONE TIME. Ian asked Ron and Damian to step down (don't know why, he appointed them he can drop them) wether they want to be dismissed or not. Brians revokation from the club is or does not stand as Ian can't make this decision alone. He can say it's so but that doesn't make it so. I believe if anyone has recourse with someone it would be Brian. John, you have my email ? ? ? Drop me a line. Jack

jdp3253

There are electronic means, such as a yahoo list.



However, after rereading posts specifically by Jim and Damian, who cares about a two person club. I joined MRCCFL under the assumption that it was to be an activities oriented club, not an email list. The reality is that MRCCFL has never had support for activities. This was never more obvious then at last year's Evolution Driving School. Further, consider the number of true MRCCFL events, meaning events that were solely the work of MRCCFL. So what is the function of a car club that does not have car related activities and why should anyone care about two delusional fools and an email list?



JP

CantGoStraight

The reason were where were at is because we could never get together and solve anything. Seems decisions made over the phone bridge were never followed up on and it all came down to one persons decision. Granted it makes it easier when all agree, but it's not necessary for all to agree, just group consenses. Wel I already belong to a local car club, an unoffical Jaxonville car club, and now two state car clubs ! ! ! ! Damn drawer is gonna be full of T-shirts ! ! !