Today I went over to a friends house to see how he is coming along on his hondah project.Coming along pretty nice since he blew the motor last year.He replaced it with a B16,DC Sports Header,AEM Cold Air Intake and a 5Zigen Catback.So I gave him some props then he wanted to look at my car.We talked awhile after but soon enough he asked if I wanted to race.I had to race him so I said allright.I followed him to a light and lined up next to him.Light turned green and I was in front of him the whole time I beat him by 2 cars or so.Then he said lets do it from a 30 roll so we did.This time it was close I only beat him by a car.He gave me mad props then I went home.As I was leaving he said "wait till I get my supercharger,you will lose".I laughed and said "The 7 Can Never Lose"! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif

yeah surprisingly the del sol is actually very heavy. i believe that the del sol siR actually came with a B16 and only ran a low to mid 15. btw good kill.

good kill!



tell him to not waste his time with a supercharger and just get a turbo instead https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



my old roomate had a 94 del sol vtec...B16A, i-h-e...pretty quick car...sounded awesome too

I told him turbocharge it also but he said he don't wanna get rid of the header he has bought.

awesome!!! kill!!!!



what is your location????



n ur mods?





sweet kill i love them 7s!



rotary 4 life

nice kill man

I told him turbocharge it also but he said he don't wanna get rid of the header he has bought. [/quote]

There's a winner.



i-h-e, an n/a build on a 1.6l 4 banger. Lots of hp to be had there. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

Tell him his civic sucks. Same car, diff body.

del sol's arent that quick there was one here that had like 4k into his b16 building it to handle a turbo and he only pulled a mid 16, but i talked to the kid and he was just waiting for time to put the turbo on, after turbo i think he said 13's or somewhat.....????

Vortech stupid chargers are nive but the Jackson racing REALLy stupid charger is a waste of money. Tell him to sell his header, CAI and exhaust.He can purchase a Kit with a precision turbo (SC61) thermal 3" exhaust if he has the extra $2500~$3000 to spare. AEM or Hondata ecu is a must!

Shut the **** up are you serious?

civic del sol VTEC pulled a 15.8 from the factory. he possible had the 1.6L non VTEC model which only produced 125HP as opposed to 160 and that version ran a 16.5.

I'm his friend with the Del Sol,I blew up my old D16z6(SOHC vtec) with a 75shot zex....My new motor is a JDM B16a siRll (2nd gen,DOHC vtec,hydro tranny,Factory LSD,170hp 116tq) All I have is bolt on's(AEM c.a.i,DC 4-2-1 header...ect) we raced off the line but my tires are BALD! so he killed me off the line due to me spinning the **** out of my tire's through first and second.....Off the roll's he got me 4 out of the 5 time's we ran em https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif we were pretty much matched up one run and I got him one run....But ya I gave him mad props! cause I kill rustang's on the regular,His car surprised the **** out of me! And ya I'm going with a Jackson Racing "Stupid charger" cause I need the low end "on demand" power cause im going into SCCA auto Xing I don't like the lag that alot of turbo cars that I've been in had the power is great for the quarter but not at all what I need it for. Here is a pic right after I got the swap...BTW my car is a high 14 sec car.



http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/235...5219002_vl.jpg

I gutted the trunk and some of the interior...The Sol's are actually 600lbs lighter than the Teg GSR and only 200lbs more than a 99-01 civic SI.....and Aaron I think I might look into getting a 3rd gen 7 next summer when I finish the Sol https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png You bastard! I was looking at all them site's you showed me https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif

I know a guy with a del sol, wasnt impressed. But i dont like civics so.

oh yeah i don't doubt the TII beat you they're surprising cars. i'm just saying that a del sol with a B16 VTEC with work done is running a **** load faster that a damn 16 sec 1/4 mile. and a high 14sec sounds just right. and a let me tell you about SCCA, auto xing : you will be in your high RPM band almost the entire way through the track. ever seen thoose races, thoose guys arn't dropping below 4k the whole way around the track. but a supercharger is good too. i can't remember are the jackson superchargers twin-screw types or roots?

Yup thats my boy.Hey Rob I will roll through Saterday and pick you up for the races.Dont take your ride though if you get caught again your really fucked.Do you have a video camera at home,I wanna post some vids instead of writing it out they get a better view of the races.

umm...supercharger is so much better for autoxing than a turbo... please learn about the subject before you post and spread misinformation



you need low end torque for autox as much as possible.....yes you are over 4000 rpm most of the time, but you dont need SPEED for it once youre up there, you need the most power (low end torque) when you are coming out of a corner or after braking, so you can accelerate quickly



supercharger is better than a turbo for autox

Yup thats my boy.Hey Rob I will roll through Saterday and pick you up for the races.Dont take your ride though if you get caught again your really fucked.Do you have a video camera at home,I wanna post some vids instead of writing it out they get a better view of the races. [/quote]



oh well...its still slow



congrats on beating a slow car?...i guess

if it was dry out the bald tires were advantageous.

Slow car? I don't know many stock internal NA 1.6l 4banger's running 14.6's on bald tire's!(this run was also the first week I had the swap...I was still getting used to the engine's powerband)If I had slicks on that day I would have been atleast 0.5 sec faster but I went just for ****'s and giggle's.I'm not starting a flame war I love the 7's. but to call a 14sec ALL motor 4banger honda slow is just silly.Ya that WOULD be a "slow" time for a forced induction import.Even with a JRSC @ 9psi tuned via Hondata the best time I will see in the future is a 13 flat or slightly better....BUT keep in mind I have a Daily driven HONDUH! that will run forever @9psi https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif

http://www.fullboost.com.au/vidzz/fullBOOS...3_09_blkcrx.avi <~~~~ maybe you would call that slow too...just messin with ya! that guy has a B16A stock block lightly modded head(i.e. port and polished) drag gen3 turbo kit,Hondata,rc440 injectors,slicks.

wow .. you cut off 2 seconds from your 1/4 time.....i dont give a ****...its still not fast



maybe its a fast del sol.... its not a fast car



my friend has a 11.97 second del sol....that is a fast car...



im nto saying your car is slow because its a honda....its slow cause its slow...



and whats the **** about daily driven....i daily drive my rx7...so ******* what..ur special

and i totally meant 12.97 ... my bad https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

ask any real racer... it doesn't matter if you win by and inch or win by a mile ... winnings winning (wanted to say that)



Nice Kill i'm impressed that you beat him (even though it wasn't or never will be that hard) (i even have a love for hondas) but if i was driving one... i would bow down to a 7



RX7s will always come out on top... ask HONDA TUNING.... they had an article about the local all motor 1st gen. civics. GIVING THE HONDA A RUN FOR THEIR MONEY!!!!! called them honda killers to be exact... i'll find the mag. and post it

FrestyleFC3S what is your fastest 1/4?

He's one cocky mofo isnt he. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif



Right now he cant run **** unless he uses his pink barbie bicycle! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/happy.png His motor is blown,LOL. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

youre not exactly one to be talking

don't be a dick to me you little **** i won't take it like 4rotor does. the term "low end" refers to RPM band, and if the supercharger isn't a twin screw or a roots (like i asked in the post) then it would be WAY worse than a turbo. now explain to me wtf you were talking about or do you just think that because people let you walk over 4rotor you can do it to anyone. maybe YOU should read a little before posting like the person you ridicual all the time. and i'm sure all those guy who autoX their turbo cars are know going oh **** i'm gonna suck know because some little **** on the internet said supercharges are better. are you just jealos because 4rotor's car is running and your's isn't ...... don't be a damn tool. one thing i can say is that even though 4rotor may not be the sharpest tool in the shed he has still tried to be friendly to most people..... you on the other hand are still just a TOOL.

youre not exactly one to be talking [/quote]

Im sorry but FresytleFC3S allways has something cocky to say. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683431.gif

wraith.....nothing there even came close to verifying whether a supercharger or turbo is better...you just tried to yell at me



i never said turbos are bad, ive had 3 turbo cars that i have autoxed a lot, and theyre fine, but i would much rather have a supercharger for an autox setup....so while you tried to make me seem like i dont know what im talking about, all you did was try and yell at me and call me a tool...you in no way added to the debate



4rr and siR...i dont drag race, i dont konw what my rx7 would run in time....my mr2 ran a 13.78 ..... and 4rr my engine may be dead - i am rebuilding it on my own right now, and upgrading it alot while its out, unlike you i do it on my own, i think you had an electrical clip unplug and you brought it to a shop??..yeahhhhhh



trying to make fun of me wont work budday....never will you be able to make fun of me, you are the biggest liar and moron on the board and trying to make fun of me isnt gonna work..... and siR is either just your little lackey that thinks hes all cool and will laugh at whatever you say, or its another name you made to have a sidekick......

can someone actually just close this ******* post.... .... .... ahhh to be a mod, would be amazing

and you did add something intelligent? all you do is spout bullshit until someone points that out and then tell them they added nothing important? ******* 5 yr old you completely ignored the fact that i specified different verisons of superchargers, and also ignored the fact that you said in the previous post that supercharger are better. you wrong you know it shutup. you can't dance around this one.

Your the one that made the thread like this.Get of the case and close the ****** book.Take your **** elsewhere know it all.

BTW I will be doing my own work on the car here on out I just needed the car running ASAP and didn't have the time.What the hell is this bullshit about me making the 1FASTsiR username so I can prove something and what not,ask Vosko or Phinsup im sure they can tell you if I made that name up. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683607.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

you guys should just **** and get it over with. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/argue.gif http://pengaru.com/~swivel/rant_smiley.gif

This is beginning to feel like the dark forum.

I'm not anyone's "lil side kick" and wraith to answer your question the JRSC kit for my engine use's a Eaton M62 blower which is a Root's type. Now can we all get along? FreestyleFC3S don't even start with me I didn't do **** to you,My Honduh Ricer ass didnt come in here ripping on any 7's now did I? In fact I made fun of myself https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png I may not own a 7 but they interest me and I would like to learn more without being made fun of mmmkay?

i wouldn't have a problem and this wouldn't of happend had the mods let him know to stop thread crapping a month ago when he started