My '86 vs. a stock mustang
05-14-2002, 10:08 AM
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Okay, so I'm sitting at the light and a teal mustang, mostly stock and probably a V6, pulls up next to me. Its a couple of goofballs in the car, guys wearing cowboy hats all bent up. I figured they might try to smoke me, so I discretely shifted down to first (automatic ??? ). The light changes and the guy takes off. I force the pedal down, chirping my tires and also take off. So his low end torque gets him off the line quicker, but my port job and increased hight end power catches up to him. Once I hit 4000 rpm, he's toast. 
ut: I fly by, not even glancing over at him. The speed limit's 45, so once I hit the red, its back into D and I'm crusing. He tries to show off, pulling up beside me, so I throw it down to second. My car pulls off with that distinctive rotary growl. Again, see ya later. 
Some people, they get a "sports car" that every other person world has and they think they do something fast. Get a rotary, thats all I say.
Just wait till I get my Turbo II: 5.0's be ware.
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ut: I fly by, not even glancing over at him. The speed limit's 45, so once I hit the red, its back into D and I'm crusing. He tries to show off, pulling up beside me, so I throw it down to second. My car pulls off with that distinctive rotary growl. Again, see ya later. Some people, they get a "sports car" that every other person world has and they think they do something fast. Get a rotary, thats all I say.
Just wait till I get my Turbo II: 5.0's be ware.
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05-15-2002, 12:31 PM
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well while were on the topics of stangs( i dislike all domestics) my bro's celica gts 6spd took a 2001 cobra on the highway by about 1 1/2 cars. the guy couldnt believe he got beat by a 4 banger with just exhaust and intake. :lachuh:
05-15-2002, 11:16 PM
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you sure it was a Cobra?
01 Cobra's run 13.3 stock....
GTS celica 6 spds only 15.2.....
Sure it wasnt a V6??? with cobra bodywork?
Quick way to check is look under the rear... if it is independant it is a Cobra. If it is a solid axle it is a GT or V6....
320 hp vs 180...
cobra 320
GT 260
V6 190
I have beaten GTS celicas myself...
so the guy could not drive or he was not a cobra!
01 Cobra's run 13.3 stock....
GTS celica 6 spds only 15.2.....
Sure it wasnt a V6??? with cobra bodywork?
Quick way to check is look under the rear... if it is independant it is a Cobra. If it is a solid axle it is a GT or V6....
320 hp vs 180...
cobra 320
GT 260
V6 190
I have beaten GTS celicas myself...
so the guy could not drive or he was not a cobra!
05-16-2002, 10:01 AM
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well i know it was a cobra for sure because he showed us his engine bay after i asked if it was a real cobra. now as far as the hp ratings for the celica go i think that the manufacturer is under rating it for some reason because he's raced stock supras and 3rd gens and takes them also and the supra also has 320 stock. either way he beat the cobra now the driver might have been the problem i couldnt tell you that for sure, but that would make my bro a really lucky guy as far as running into people with shitty driving skills.
05-16-2002, 11:50 AM
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I run 14.8's and have taken out a Celica GTS 6 spd.
I have raced Cobra's and gotten my *** handed to me.
The 32 Valve Cobras HAUL!
13.3 and for 03 12.8 on street tires....
Guess the guy did not know how to drive.
I worked for Toyota for a bit before switching dealerships. I use to drive those celicas and while pretty quick I did not think they had enough ***** to beat a cobra.
I guess the guy did not know how to race or his clutch was slippin so bad that he couldn't put anypower to the ground....
I raced a 98 Cobra and I raced a 01 Cobra... the 98 was actually a lot faster off the line. In 99 Ford put IRS on the back of the Cobra's well it makes them a lot harder to get off the line. they are better in the twisties now. So the old Solid Axle Cobras can launch hard. When I raced the 01 I got him off the line due to me being able to launch at a higher RPM where he could not go above 3000 due to axle windup in the IRS rear end. :unsure: dunno why you won on this one... Anyway congrats on the kill...
Oh signs of it being a Cobra...
White face gauges
different seats
Different front Fascia
Different Wheels
IRS rear end
Different exhaust due to IRS
32 Valve 4 cam Motor
Cobra Bumper
Also if you look under the rear end you would see some snaking exhaust due to the IRS rear end. This is pretty much the way to tell a Cobra.
I have raced Cobra's and gotten my *** handed to me.
The 32 Valve Cobras HAUL!
13.3 and for 03 12.8 on street tires....
Guess the guy did not know how to drive.
I worked for Toyota for a bit before switching dealerships. I use to drive those celicas and while pretty quick I did not think they had enough ***** to beat a cobra.
I guess the guy did not know how to race or his clutch was slippin so bad that he couldn't put anypower to the ground....
I raced a 98 Cobra and I raced a 01 Cobra... the 98 was actually a lot faster off the line. In 99 Ford put IRS on the back of the Cobra's well it makes them a lot harder to get off the line. they are better in the twisties now. So the old Solid Axle Cobras can launch hard. When I raced the 01 I got him off the line due to me being able to launch at a higher RPM where he could not go above 3000 due to axle windup in the IRS rear end. :unsure: dunno why you won on this one... Anyway congrats on the kill...
Oh signs of it being a Cobra...
White face gauges
different seats
Different front Fascia
Different Wheels
IRS rear end
Different exhaust due to IRS
32 Valve 4 cam Motor
Cobra Bumper
Also if you look under the rear end you would see some snaking exhaust due to the IRS rear end. This is pretty much the way to tell a Cobra.
05-21-2002, 06:28 PM
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My friend w/ his 86 Iroc z28 raced a 98-00 (?) cobra and only got beat by a car length, but he had 4ppl in his car, and couldn't stop buring rubber. Thats my only take on them. ( he's also got 6k in engine work)
05-21-2002, 07:13 PM
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Anyone who says they dislike Mustangs/domestics has never driven one, drive something with some torque to it, and tell me you dislike it! :P On another note, the 2003 Mustang Cobra is 390hp/390 ft lbs of torque, ran the 1/4 mile in 12.9. Ill eat my shoe with my foot still in it when a 6 speed celica with exaust and intake beats that 
05-21-2002, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='May 21 2002, 09:13 PM
Anyone who says they dislike Mustangs/domestics has never driven one, drive something with some torque to it, and tell me you dislike it! :P On another note, the 2003 Mustang Cobra is 390hp/390 ft lbs of torque, ran the 1/4 mile in 12.9. Ill eat my shoe with my foot still in it when a 6 speed celica with exaust and intake beats that