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Old 09-07-2003, 02:41 PM
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I was waiting for the flame of disbeliveers.lol It's fine to be sceptical, but I'm also sorry the bulk of you don't believe a good kill from properly running slightly modified FD. My information represents a factual account.



Consider the chance that the particular defeated 911 turbo was an auto with Triptronic, and maybe even had a full tank of gas. I invariably cruise with a 1/4 tank or less. It's not that complicated. I won three times because I had more HP to weight. Personally I can't say if the defeated had a manual or auto, but looking at the numbers I don't think it would have made a difference of the outcome either way.



My car, me and low gas level, about 2900lbs, maybe 280 WP, 10.3 lbs. per HP.



loosing 911 turbo with driver, possible full tank of fuel and auto 3850lbs 330 WP.(As tested by Autothority) 11.6 pounds per HP.



Here's a link about the 911 turbo. The X50 package which I referred to in my previous post is not listed, but it's basically a 450 fly wheel HP upgrade installed on select vehicles by Porsche. It's a 16,000 dollar factory upgrade.



My buddy just got one of the 911 turbo X50s a month or so ago. You may have read my post back then. He's managed to stir up an on freeway punch with a normal 911 turbo. He dropped him quickly. Hopefully after my stock mount upgraded intercooler and water injection he will be my next kill. Don't flame me when he goes down.
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Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Sep 7 2003, 08:25 AM
So you were only running 10psi? Is this a stock motor too?
It's the original stock motor and twins. The actual car now has 21,000 miles. The car is tight and near new condition. To lend an idea how fresh the motor and turbos might be, I still have the original Bridgestone S01 tires with a good 70% of tread left. The stock wheels and tires came off the car at 19,000 miles when I upgraded to the much needed Bridgestone S02s with wider contact area on the rear.(265s)



I have no boost leaks or vacuum line problems.
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Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Sep 7 2003, 08:25 AM
So you were only running 10psi? Is this a stock motor too?
Sorry, part of my reply to the question was deleted. Here's a bit more information.



It's the original stock motor and twins. The actual car now has 21,000 miles. The car is tight and near new condition. To lend an idea how fresh the motor and turbos might be, I still have the original Bridgestone S01 tires with a good 70% of tread left. The stock wheels and tires came off the car at 19,000 miles when I upgraded to the much needed Bridgestone S02s with wider contact area on the rear.(265s)



I have no boost leaks or vacuum line problems and the boost at manifold reads a solid 10 psi. I don't think my car is all that quick, but I do believe I've made a difference with some work that I've done beyond just bolting on parts. I would expect my car's exhaust and intake flows with significantly less dran and restriction, when compared to your basic bolts on of an M2 DP and cat back with stock air box. My stock air box has not been cut in the bottom to allow more air openings as some do, but has had the intake connection points sealed with fabricated foam gaskets to reduce pressure loss generated from forced air from nose of the car. I also eliminated the small restrictive interior dimension rubber gasket that connects the duct to the air box. I constructed a different gasket which surrounds the outside dimension. The vents that pass through to the battery and AC component have been sealed. The faster the car goes the less the turbos need to pull by themselves. The M2 DP comes with a flange which bolts to the turbo exhaust port which is completely off. Just bolting it on will cause blockage of exhaust flow. I matched the flange shape by grinding to the shape of the turbo exhaust manifold. I then polished the interior of the DP about 8 inches down, and particularly so at the fist bend were drag would be greatest. The stock main cat has interior welds with reduce the interior diameter of the pipe significantly. I ground these near flush at both the DP to cat connection point as well as the cat to cat back connection point.



I don't think any of this stuff is anything new, but that's about what I've got going on and it was enough to defeat the 911 turbo repeatedly.
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Old 09-07-2003, 03:47 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, street races that don't involve money are inconclusive. If I were in the 911 turbo I would let you win all night long then next time I see your FD on the road I'd ask if you wanna race for $1k. After the big head you got from the last time it's a sure thing. Street racing is hustling.



So, though it may be possible for you to beat him in a real heads up race, I don't think what you experienced has proved that.



The only time IMO when it's halfway reliable is when you're racing a close friend and you know he isnt going to bullshit you.



In any case, nice car, it's not often you see a FD with so few original miles. Must be alot of fun
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Originally Posted by pengaru' date='Sep 7 2003, 12:47 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, street races that don't involve money are inconclusive. If I were in the 911 turbo I would let you win all night long then next time I see your FD on the road I'd ask if you wanna race for $1k. After the big head you got from the last time it's a sure thing. Street racing is hustling.



So, though it may be possible for you to beat him in a real heads up race, I don't think what you experienced has proved that.



The only time IMO when it's halfway reliable is when you're racing a close friend and you know he isnt going to bullshit you.



In any case, nice car, it's not often you see a FD with so few original miles. Must be alot of fun
It was not a body kit. The driver was not street hustling. It was a 911 turbo Porsche. It lost three times to my FD.
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Good kills man post pics of your FD.
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Originally Posted by 4RotorRocket' date='Sep 8 2003, 07:33 AM
Good kills man post pics of your FD.
There's a picture in this Kill thread. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/index.php?...29&hl=schroeder
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His car is beautiful, great shape. I was at the same car show.



And Greg, I talked to the other FD guy and he said he was misshifting to 5th because of a new shortshifter and for some reason was running like .62 BAR instead of .80 or something like that. Too bad :\



Probably the same as I told you about the one high power FD, took solid tranny and engine mounts, torque brace and sequential shifter to not misshift. That guys on this forum btw.



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Greg



I am not tring to Flame you..



BUT.. Either that guy in the PORSHE was a Real Vagina

and can't drive, or you making this up..



There is NO way.



OK you got PFC, Downpipe and Catback...



DUDE NO way you could run a New 911 turbo with a

competent driver...



I tel you what go to the Track and lets see some TIMES....



I say you run Low 14s maybe high 13's low 13's if you lucky..



Come on man, 911 turbos are running 12's out the gate(showroom)



you running 10psi with dp and catback. NO way.. JOSE..

You don't even have a INTERCOOLER... come on man



I believe you maybe won the race or so called race..

Then its obvious the guy driving hte 911 was probably

80 and senial.
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okay listen a 911 turbo stock runs a 12.4 sec 1/4 mile and has a top speed of 195mph, and it gets there QUICK. he wasn't trying, plain and simple. i am sure your car is quick, and with your mods probably running a high 12, but highway racing he would kill you because there is no way in hell you are pulling from 60-120 faster than him. i'm not flaming i'm just saying that the #'s don't add up.
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