Pros/Cons about painting with a Candy Color
10-24-2002, 05:11 PM
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I'm considering going with a candy blue color, but have heard many horror stories. Such as, once you have your car painted, and if by chance you need to paint her again (from chips, bumps etc) there is noway the bodyshop will match your original paint job. They will either need to take the panel off and repaint it or just repaint the whole car. Its funny just recently the manager at Dupont here advised me against it because my car is street driven. I want to get a this blue I've seen for the rex but it will be far froma trailer show queen... With Flex additive how good do these paint jobs hold up with fiberglass? I also hear some paints hold up better than others, PPG is supposed to be more durable? I dunno mightbe bullshit
So if anyone has any insight or experiances please post.
So if anyone has any insight or experiances please post.
10-24-2002, 06:08 PM
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There is no need for flex additive on fiberglass, only plastics and urethanes that might flex, usually only bumpers.
You can fix it if something happens to it, but it wont match.
Finding a painter who can get the whole car to look right is very slim, and if you did VERY expensive. Chances are it will come out blotchy. Most shops wont even bother anyhow due to the time and materials cost and what people are willing to pay.
Those cars look good indoors but when the sun shines on those types of paint jobs, the imperfection in the "candy" process really shows, sort of the way a mettalic paint job does.
Its a matter of opinion what paints hold up the best, usually whatever a shop uses they claim is the best, its attention to prep and proper procedure that yield good paint jobs and one that holds up.
Another drawback of a street driven candy apple paint job is that the paint tends to end up on the thick side which means it will chip and possibly peel MUCH more easily.
Just get a mettalic blue that is close.
You can fix it if something happens to it, but it wont match.
Finding a painter who can get the whole car to look right is very slim, and if you did VERY expensive. Chances are it will come out blotchy. Most shops wont even bother anyhow due to the time and materials cost and what people are willing to pay.
Those cars look good indoors but when the sun shines on those types of paint jobs, the imperfection in the "candy" process really shows, sort of the way a mettalic paint job does.
Its a matter of opinion what paints hold up the best, usually whatever a shop uses they claim is the best, its attention to prep and proper procedure that yield good paint jobs and one that holds up.
Another drawback of a street driven candy apple paint job is that the paint tends to end up on the thick side which means it will chip and possibly peel MUCH more easily.
Just get a mettalic blue that is close.
11-14-2002, 02:02 PM
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Rob x-7 is right. My friend used to be a painter and when I asked him about a candy paint job on my ultima he about died. He said to look good I would have to find the best painter on the east coast and even then they probably wouldn't be good enough. Candy paint must be sprayed so evenly it's crazy. Any over lap in paint will be noticable. I asked him what he though it would cost to paint the ultima which is an all fiberglass body in perfectly smooth gel coat. He said I would be lucky to get it done for 15k-20 but once they saw the car they would assume I have money and double the price.
11-28-2002, 09:22 PM
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**** i have candy paint and it is not that bad
chips suck but i hardly drive mine
you can see my mistakes only during certain times of the day, because the paint works off of light so for about 2 hours out of the day you can see **** ups other then that your car stands out and looks good
mine cost 8k for a chrome illusion(6 sided pearl)
but it is up to u
chips suck but i hardly drive mine
you can see my mistakes only during certain times of the day, because the paint works off of light so for about 2 hours out of the day you can see **** ups other then that your car stands out and looks good
mine cost 8k for a chrome illusion(6 sided pearl)
but it is up to u
11-29-2002, 12:59 PM
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I am a painter, Ok why do they sell it if you cant use it?
I do all sorts of paint jobs,3 stage pearl,Chroma,Candy the lot, you must have some **** painters around there if they cant use the base .
I would'nt like to do a repaint out side a booth but it is'nt as hard as you are making out.
I admit its hard to find a good painter becouse the theory at the moment is "Time = Money" so if they are on bonus they wont spend the time doing it properly.
The film thickness will make the car more prone to stone chips but the base coat wont make that much diffrence, just buy the best quality clear you can and use the Data sheets to put the optimum anount on.
P.S. The hardest colour you never want to use is silver, that is the one colour i hate, it does the lot goes blotchy it shows ever mark even the Gun Presure can make it lighter and darker (hard work)
I do all sorts of paint jobs,3 stage pearl,Chroma,Candy the lot, you must have some **** painters around there if they cant use the base .
I would'nt like to do a repaint out side a booth but it is'nt as hard as you are making out.
I admit its hard to find a good painter becouse the theory at the moment is "Time = Money" so if they are on bonus they wont spend the time doing it properly.
The film thickness will make the car more prone to stone chips but the base coat wont make that much diffrence, just buy the best quality clear you can and use the Data sheets to put the optimum anount on.
P.S. The hardest colour you never want to use is silver, that is the one colour i hate, it does the lot goes blotchy it shows ever mark even the Gun Presure can make it lighter and darker (hard work)
11-29-2002, 01:03 PM
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One last tip, Dont cut corners on the prep work. I can do the prep on a car spot on and let a muppet of the street paint it and it would still look presentable but get the two right (Paint and Prep) and you'll have an Amaizing job.
I guess what i'm trying to say dont go for a cheep option.
Chris.
I guess what i'm trying to say dont go for a cheep option.
Chris.
11-29-2002, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Grizzly' date='Nov 29 2002, 01:59 PM
I am a painter, Ok why do they sell it if you cant use it?
I do all sorts of paint jobs,3 stage pearl,Chroma,Candy the lot, you must have some **** painters around there if they cant use the base .
I would'nt like to do a repaint out side a booth but it is'nt as hard as you are making out.
I admit its hard to find a good painter becouse the theory at the moment is "Time = Money" so if they are on bonus they wont spend the time doing it properly.
The film thickness will make the car more prone to stone chips but the base coat wont make that much diffrence, just buy the best quality clear you can and use the Data sheets to put the optimum anount on.
P.S. The hardest colour you never want to use is silver, that is the one colour i hate, it does the lot goes blotchy it shows ever mark even the Gun Presure can make it lighter and darker (hard work)
I do all sorts of paint jobs,3 stage pearl,Chroma,Candy the lot, you must have some **** painters around there if they cant use the base .
I would'nt like to do a repaint out side a booth but it is'nt as hard as you are making out.
I admit its hard to find a good painter becouse the theory at the moment is "Time = Money" so if they are on bonus they wont spend the time doing it properly.
The film thickness will make the car more prone to stone chips but the base coat wont make that much diffrence, just buy the best quality clear you can and use the Data sheets to put the optimum anount on.
P.S. The hardest colour you never want to use is silver, that is the one colour i hate, it does the lot goes blotchy it shows ever mark even the Gun Presure can make it lighter and darker (hard work)
You would have to be a moron to mess up basecoat paint, even silver.