I'm considering going with a candy blue color, but have heard many horror stories. Such as, once you have your car painted, and if by chance you need to paint her again (from chips, bumps etc) there is noway the bodyshop will match your original paint job. They will either need to take the panel off and repaint it or just repaint the whole car. Its funny just recently the manager at Dupont here advised me against it because my car is street driven. I want to get a this blue I've seen for the rex but it will be far froma trailer show queen... With Flex additive how good do these paint jobs hold up with fiberglass? I also hear some paints hold up better than others, PPG is supposed to be more durable? I dunno mightbe bullshit



So if anyone has any insight or experiances please post.

There is no need for flex additive on fiberglass, only plastics and urethanes that might flex, usually only bumpers.

You can fix it if something happens to it, but it wont match.

Finding a painter who can get the whole car to look right is very slim, and if you did VERY expensive. Chances are it will come out blotchy. Most shops wont even bother anyhow due to the time and materials cost and what people are willing to pay.

Those cars look good indoors but when the sun shines on those types of paint jobs, the imperfection in the "candy" process really shows, sort of the way a mettalic paint job does.

Its a matter of opinion what paints hold up the best, usually whatever a shop uses they claim is the best, its attention to prep and proper procedure that yield good paint jobs and one that holds up.

Another drawback of a street driven candy apple paint job is that the paint tends to end up on the thick side which means it will chip and possibly peel MUCH more easily.

Just get a mettalic blue that is close.

Your welcome by the way

Rob x-7 is right. My friend used to be a painter and when I asked him about a candy paint job on my ultima he about died. He said to look good I would have to find the best painter on the east coast and even then they probably wouldn't be good enough. Candy paint must be sprayed so evenly it's crazy. Any over lap in paint will be noticable. I asked him what he though it would cost to paint the ultima which is an all fiberglass body in perfectly smooth gel coat. He said I would be lucky to get it done for 15k-20 but once they saw the car they would assume I have money and double the price.

**** i have candy paint and it is not that bad



chips suck but i hardly drive mine



you can see my mistakes only during certain times of the day, because the paint works off of light so for about 2 hours out of the day you can see **** ups other then that your car stands out and looks good



mine cost 8k for a chrome illusion(6 sided pearl)



but it is up to u https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

Chroma Illusion and candy are TOTALLY different things, besides the guy posted this a month ago and hasnt replied since, I think its safe to let this one go, lol

I am a painter, Ok why do they sell it if you cant use it?



I do all sorts of paint jobs,3 stage pearl,Chroma,Candy the lot, you must have some **** painters around there if they cant use the base .



I would'nt like to do a repaint out side a booth but it is'nt as hard as you are making out.



I admit its hard to find a good painter becouse the theory at the moment is "Time = Money" so if they are on bonus they wont spend the time doing it properly.



The film thickness will make the car more prone to stone chips but the base coat wont make that much diffrence, just buy the best quality clear you can and use the Data sheets to put the optimum anount on.



P.S. The hardest colour you never want to use is silver, that is the one colour i hate, it does the lot goes blotchy it shows ever mark even the Gun Presure can make it lighter and darker (hard work)

One last tip, Dont cut corners on the prep work. I can do the prep on a car spot on and let a muppet of the street paint it and it would still look presentable but get the two right (Paint and Prep) and you'll have an Amaizing job.



I guess what i'm trying to say dont go for a cheep option.



Chris.

You CAN USE IT, but using it for a daily driven street car would be a stupid idea. If you read the first response I think it clearly said all that you said.





You would have to be a moron to mess up basecoat paint, even silver.

U a Painter?

"Those cars look good indoors but when the sun shines on those types of paint jobs, the imperfection in the "candy" process really shows, sort of the way a mettalic paint job does."



Do you not find its the other way around? We have strip lights in our work shop and skylights (which to be honist need cleaning) that dont show the pearl up as much as it does out side and makes it look to yellow.



I am a pro Painter and have been doing the job for the last 15 years, I dont know what all the probelm is? U say Candy paint is expencive? nar its just a pearl not even close to things like Chroma and yeh it needs to be put on evely but what doesnt?

I have House of Kolors Kandy blue on my car and it's held up great!

Indoors the imperfections will not show up like they will outdoors, correct?

I never said the PEARLS wont show up as good as they would outdoors, I said the IMPERFECTIONS wont show up indoors like they will outdoors.

The guys question was if a candy paint job was good for a daily driven car, my answer is no. Mainly because he will have a hard time finding a painter or better yet a shop who even wants to get involved, plus the fact that the guy probably only wanted to spend $2000 on a paint job so you know he wasnt going to get the quality paint job that you yourself would put on your own car, or someone who spends the money needed for a good quality candy paint job.



Again, for a daily driven car that will get damage, do you think that when it comes time to repair this type of paint job that the person performing the repair will achieve IDENTICAL effects and the car will look like it was never fixed? To someone who has some money to play with maybe its not a factor, or someone who will only take thier cars out occasionally



As a painter you should know painting a whole car can be much easier then repairing someone else's paint job. Its all your own technique and any slight variations in gun pressure or material delivery/atomization will be overall, versus trying to duplicate someone elses work, techiniques, enviroment in which they sprayed, or someone else who doesnt follow proper procedures, etc.



Most of these colors being sold today as "kandy"colors mimic a true candy paint job, 3 coats of basecoat and 2-3 coats of pure clear is no way a candy apple paint job.

Are you a painter? With direct sunlight its ALWAYS going to look better than indoors if you are talking imperfections not Tram lines or patches.



I think you are getting Candy and Chroma mixed up, you are right you put 2 full coats and a drop coat then 2 coats of Clear on a Base Solid,Met or Candy on a Chroma you put your 2 ground coats then 2 more coats of Chroma to give the colour then 2 clear. Chroma is super expencive at around $500 a liter + Ground and Clear. As for Matching if you know what you've painted it with you wont have a problem (again you are thinking of old Pearls/Mica 3 stages that was a royal pain in the rear to match)



Even if i was hard pushed and did'nt know what it had been painted in i could go to my Profie system (like colour swatches for nearly ever colour made) and select a colour that is a close match and blend it into the next panels and you would'nt tell, it may take a full day to get the colour right but it can be done.



I personly look after my cars for example i repainted one in 3 stage Pearl (white over a Blue ground) i did this when i was an Aprentice (aprox 12 years ago in another make of paint) and still own the car, its looks ok but i had to do some stone chips on it a year ago and you would'nt tell and this is considered the hardest colour to replicate exactly.



If you are a Pro painter and have the Experiance things like this should not be a Problem. You are quite right it is harder to put some one elses mess right but why acept it back in the first place?



When you say Candy Apple what do you mean? As Candy Apple is a Lambo colour (Candy Apple Blue), its a Old 3 stage and its very pearl you are proberly mistaking that with todays 2 stage Candy colours?

Candy apple is the term for the old laquer paint jobs that were a base of gold or silver then clear with color, then clear only. Basically after the whole process you get the color effect but because of the depth the paint jobs looked incredible. I seen a candyapple brandywine paint job on a 50 Merc, the paint was stunning.



Maybe we were mistaken here in this case. Yes BC/CC pearl/chroma can be much easier duplicated.



We both know if you have to fix a fender your probably going to end up blending in the door, hood, bumper with a custom job like that, maybe even the whole side of the car. So a scratch in a door or fender turns into a expensive thing, not really good for a daily driven car in my opinion. Which was the original question for this post, to which the guy hasnt even replied back, lol.



I am a painter and with the imperfections I was talking about was lines and patches https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png Then again I have learned that most people cant see obvious imperfections. How many cars you see pull up at a stop light next to you and makes you shake your head at the horrendous body and paint work thats on thier car!

hey rob r u a painter? :bigthumg: