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09-15-2003, 04:52 PM
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dave, they have a bunch of hid kits that came out of audi's and bmw's in e bay. they come with hella ballasts, hella d2s housings, and hella 4300k bulbs (stock) i think im gunna buy one
so if you see someone named cmartinp28 bidding on something, dont bid on it
so if you see someone named cmartinp28 bidding on something, dont bid on it
09-16-2003, 04:52 PM
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if you want a hid conversion try this: http://www.lighter.net/afe/products/rx7headlights/
hids are not illegal nor are proper conversions. what is being cracked down on are the hid replacement bulbs, like H4 and H3 hids.
hids are not illegal nor are proper conversions. what is being cracked down on are the hid replacement bulbs, like H4 and H3 hids.
09-16-2003, 04:59 PM
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fd3boost: also you can not really polish out the stock lens.
fikserx7: retrofitting hids into the hella 90mm housings is a bad idea and not to mention illegal. hella makes a 90mm housing meant specifically for hid and you should be using those. the hid bulb requires placement to within .005 (five thousandths) of an inch and also the rear reflector shape is different because the bright part of a hid capsule is a different shape. a hid light is a small arc and the ends are the brightest whereas a filament is a cylinder of light and the middle is the brightest part. you are not getting the most out of your beam pattern.
fikserx7: retrofitting hids into the hella 90mm housings is a bad idea and not to mention illegal. hella makes a 90mm housing meant specifically for hid and you should be using those. the hid bulb requires placement to within .005 (five thousandths) of an inch and also the rear reflector shape is different because the bright part of a hid capsule is a different shape. a hid light is a small arc and the ends are the brightest whereas a filament is a cylinder of light and the middle is the brightest part. you are not getting the most out of your beam pattern.
09-16-2003, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rockshox' date='Sep 16 2003, 01:59 PM
fd3boost: also you can not really polish out the stock lens.
fikserx7: retrofitting hids into the hella 90mm housings is a bad idea and not to mention illegal. hella makes a 90mm housing meant specifically for hid and you should be using those. the hid bulb requires placement to within .005 (five thousandths) of an inch and also the rear reflector shape is different because the bright part of a hid capsule is a different shape. a hid light is a small arc and the ends are the brightest whereas a filament is a cylinder of light and the middle is the brightest part. you are not getting the most out of your beam pattern.
fikserx7: retrofitting hids into the hella 90mm housings is a bad idea and not to mention illegal. hella makes a 90mm housing meant specifically for hid and you should be using those. the hid bulb requires placement to within .005 (five thousandths) of an inch and also the rear reflector shape is different because the bright part of a hid capsule is a different shape. a hid light is a small arc and the ends are the brightest whereas a filament is a cylinder of light and the middle is the brightest part. you are not getting the most out of your beam pattern.
09-22-2003, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rockshox' date='Sep 16 2003, 01:59 PM
fd3boost: also you can not really polish out the stock lens.
fikserx7: retrofitting hids into the hella 90mm housings is a bad idea and not to mention illegal. hella makes a 90mm housing meant specifically for hid and you should be using those. the hid bulb requires placement to within .005 (five thousandths) of an inch and also the rear reflector shape is different because the bright part of a hid capsule is a different shape. a hid light is a small arc and the ends are the brightest whereas a filament is a cylinder of light and the middle is the brightest part. you are not getting the most out of your beam pattern.
fikserx7: retrofitting hids into the hella 90mm housings is a bad idea and not to mention illegal. hella makes a 90mm housing meant specifically for hid and you should be using those. the hid bulb requires placement to within .005 (five thousandths) of an inch and also the rear reflector shape is different because the bright part of a hid capsule is a different shape. a hid light is a small arc and the ends are the brightest whereas a filament is a cylinder of light and the middle is the brightest part. you are not getting the most out of your beam pattern.
I was just wondering if anyone has tried it before on headlamps.
09-24-2003, 08:38 PM
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obviously it is possible to polish glass, but i dont think youre going to be able to improve the stock lenses by any means.
also i wanted to mention color temperature as there seem to be some misconceptions. lower temps appear more red and higher numbers appear more blue. they can all be considered "white" as your brain corrects your perception of colors lit by a "white" light. only when you put 2 white lights with different temps near each other does it become really obvious. direct sunlight at noon is approximately 5500K. so its not really "the lower the temp the whiter the light".
also just because a light is closer to a sunlight color temp does not make it better for a headlight, your eyes use a totally different mode of vision at night. a more yellow light will actually improve contrast and make a better light. the blue tint of an HID light is its biggest downside.
many of the higher color temp hid lights are actually using a blue filter over them which may raise the color temp but by blocking some of the light it is actually reducing the actual lumen output.
also i wanted to mention color temperature as there seem to be some misconceptions. lower temps appear more red and higher numbers appear more blue. they can all be considered "white" as your brain corrects your perception of colors lit by a "white" light. only when you put 2 white lights with different temps near each other does it become really obvious. direct sunlight at noon is approximately 5500K. so its not really "the lower the temp the whiter the light".
also just because a light is closer to a sunlight color temp does not make it better for a headlight, your eyes use a totally different mode of vision at night. a more yellow light will actually improve contrast and make a better light. the blue tint of an HID light is its biggest downside.
many of the higher color temp hid lights are actually using a blue filter over them which may raise the color temp but by blocking some of the light it is actually reducing the actual lumen output.
09-24-2003, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rockshox' date='Sep 24 2003, 05:38 PM
obviously it is possible to polish glass, but i dont think youre going to be able to improve the stock lenses by any means.
also i wanted to mention color temperature as there seem to be some misconceptions. lower temps appear more red and higher numbers appear more blue. they can all be considered "white" as your brain corrects your perception of colors lit by a "white" light. only when you put 2 white lights with different temps near each other does it become really obvious. direct sunlight at noon is approximately 5500K. so its not really "the lower the temp the whiter the light".
also just because a light is closer to a sunlight color temp does not make it better for a headlight, your eyes use a totally different mode of vision at night. a more yellow light will actually improve contrast and make a better light. the blue tint of an HID light is its biggest downside.
many of the higher color temp hid lights are actually using a blue filter over them which may raise the color temp but by blocking some of the light it is actually reducing the actual lumen output.
also i wanted to mention color temperature as there seem to be some misconceptions. lower temps appear more red and higher numbers appear more blue. they can all be considered "white" as your brain corrects your perception of colors lit by a "white" light. only when you put 2 white lights with different temps near each other does it become really obvious. direct sunlight at noon is approximately 5500K. so its not really "the lower the temp the whiter the light".
also just because a light is closer to a sunlight color temp does not make it better for a headlight, your eyes use a totally different mode of vision at night. a more yellow light will actually improve contrast and make a better light. the blue tint of an HID light is its biggest downside.
many of the higher color temp hid lights are actually using a blue filter over them which may raise the color temp but by blocking some of the light it is actually reducing the actual lumen output.
Of coarse one could just buy new lamps
In anycase you just read to far into what I was saying in the first place.
Is your windshield easier to see through when its clean or dirty?
You see my point? That was all i was saying I wasnt trying to imply that i could sand them down to a true HID quality headlamp..
You think we are stupid over here or something?