Rob x-7

You mean the stereo surround??? How are you going to make it stick for one, then conform to the shape and what not?- by putting cuts in the film? Think Im going to have to sound the rice alarm on this one? Its going to look like checkerboard tape in my opinion. I dont even see the attraction with carbon fiber anyhow?[/quote]

Just prep and paint the interior parts to match existing colors. Once you get the surface smooth and apply the finish its comes out looking sharp

Ill post some pics soon if you're interested.



J[/quote]

You mean like this?[/quote]

Hell yes. Exactly like that, although im no longer a self titled "pioneer" of the smoothed out interior trim, that is exactly what im talking about. I've done a little more than just the center console and shift boot retainer, I hope i wont be sorry.



It will, however, look far better than some carbon fiber sticky rice ****, Ive done enough rice w/ my wing



How is it holding up? I hear you dont drive much. Is it automotive finish

or other?[/quote]

Its holding up great, considering its black and it sits in the sun. Doesnt matter if the car isnt driven alot, it sits in the sun, which it would do no matter what. Its AwlGrip Epoxy primer with DuPont Imron over it, so its not really a automotive finish, more along the lines of a industrial finish- boats, tractor trailers, airplanes, etc.. It is smooth as glass and looks like the day I sprayed it, still looks like its wet paint. My surround was cracked anyhow and my shifter surround was coming apart as well, the pins for the boot broke off a long time ago, now its alllllll good.

89 Rag

You mean the stereo surround??? How are you going to make it stick for one, then conform to the shape and what not?- by putting cuts in the film? Think Im going to have to sound the rice alarm on this one? Its going to look like checkerboard tape in my opinion. I dont even see the attraction with carbon fiber anyhow?[/quote]

Just prep and paint the interior parts to match existing colors. Once you get the surface smooth and apply the finish its comes out looking sharp

Ill post some pics soon if you're interested.



J[/quote]

You mean like this?[/quote]

Hell yes. Exactly like that, although im no longer a self titled "pioneer" of the smoothed out interior trim, that is exactly what im talking about. I've done a little more than just the center console and shift boot retainer, I hope i wont be sorry.



It will, however, look far better than some carbon fiber sticky rice ****, Ive done enough rice w/ my wing



How is it holding up? I hear you dont drive much. Is it automotive finish

or other?[/quote]

Its holding up great, considering its black and it sits in the sun. Doesnt matter if the car isnt driven alot, it sits in the sun, which it would do no matter what. Its AwlGrip Epoxy primer with DuPont Imron over it, so its not really a automotive finish, more along the lines of a industrial finish- boats, tractor trailers, airplanes, etc.. It is smooth as glass and looks like the day I sprayed it, still looks like its wet paint. My surround was cracked anyhow and my shifter surround was coming apart as well, the pins for the boot broke off a long time ago, now its alllllll good.[/quote]

Imron is nice ****, kinda spendy, but well worth it. So the awlgrip was done like a build coat? I sanded my parts first, got most of the texture out, then went to a few coats of primer with guides in between. I used a flex additive as well, do you think it was unnecessary?

Rob x-7

You mean the stereo surround??? How are you going to make it stick for one, then conform to the shape and what not?- by putting cuts in the film? Think Im going to have to sound the rice alarm on this one? Its going to look like checkerboard tape in my opinion. I dont even see the attraction with carbon fiber anyhow?[/quote]

Just prep and paint the interior parts to match existing colors. Once you get the surface smooth and apply the finish its comes out looking sharp

Ill post some pics soon if you're interested.



J[/quote]

You mean like this?[/quote]

Hell yes. Exactly like that, although im no longer a self titled "pioneer" of the smoothed out interior trim, that is exactly what im talking about. I've done a little more than just the center console and shift boot retainer, I hope i wont be sorry.



It will, however, look far better than some carbon fiber sticky rice ****, Ive done enough rice w/ my wing



How is it holding up? I hear you dont drive much. Is it automotive finish

or other?[/quote]

Its holding up great, considering its black and it sits in the sun. Doesnt matter if the car isnt driven alot, it sits in the sun, which it would do no matter what. Its AwlGrip Epoxy primer with DuPont Imron over it, so its not really a automotive finish, more along the lines of a industrial finish- boats, tractor trailers, airplanes, etc.. It is smooth as glass and looks like the day I sprayed it, still looks like its wet paint. My surround was cracked anyhow and my shifter surround was coming apart as well, the pins for the boot broke off a long time ago, now its alllllll good.[/quote]

Imron is nice ****, kinda spendy, but well worth it. So the awlgrip was done like a build coat? I sanded my parts first, got most of the texture out, then went to a few coats of primer with guides in between. I used a flex additive as well, do you think it was unnecessary?[/quote]

The flex wouldnt hurt I guess if someone happens to hit it, Imron needs no flex so its a great paint for things like this, yes the AwlGrip put some build to it but the key was sanding the texture out to begin with, too much primer is no good. Wet sanded the primer when it cures ( that primer is about $200 or so a gallon ) nice and smooth. I tend to over-do things but I never have any problems, that AwlGrip primer sticks to anything, thats how I do the plexiglass tailights as well. And we buy the Imron on schedule C which is 5% over cost, but it didnt cost me anything for few ounces I used anyhow. The Imron is very scratch resistant as well.

89 Rag

You mean the stereo surround??? How are you going to make it stick for one, then conform to the shape and what not?- by putting cuts in the film? Think Im going to have to sound the rice alarm on this one? Its going to look like checkerboard tape in my opinion. I dont even see the attraction with carbon fiber anyhow?[/quote]

Just prep and paint the interior parts to match existing colors. Once you get the surface smooth and apply the finish its comes out looking sharp

Ill post some pics soon if you're interested.



J[/quote]

You mean like this?[/quote]

Hell yes. Exactly like that, although im no longer a self titled "pioneer" of the smoothed out interior trim, that is exactly what im talking about. I've done a little more than just the center console and shift boot retainer, I hope i wont be sorry.



It will, however, look far better than some carbon fiber sticky rice ****, Ive done enough rice w/ my wing



How is it holding up? I hear you dont drive much. Is it automotive finish

or other?[/quote]

Its holding up great, considering its black and it sits in the sun. Doesnt matter if the car isnt driven alot, it sits in the sun, which it would do no matter what. Its AwlGrip Epoxy primer with DuPont Imron over it, so its not really a automotive finish, more along the lines of a industrial finish- boats, tractor trailers, airplanes, etc.. It is smooth as glass and looks like the day I sprayed it, still looks like its wet paint. My surround was cracked anyhow and my shifter surround was coming apart as well, the pins for the boot broke off a long time ago, now its alllllll good.[/quote]

Imron is nice ****, kinda spendy, but well worth it. So the awlgrip was done like a build coat? I sanded my parts first, got most of the texture out, then went to a few coats of primer with guides in between. I used a flex additive as well, do you think it was unnecessary?[/quote]

The flex wouldnt hurt I guess if someone happens to hit it, Imron needs no flex so its a great paint for things like this, yes the AwlGrip put some build to it but the key was sanding the texture out to begin with, too much primer is no good. Wet sanded the primer when it cures ( that primer is about $200 or so a gallon ) nice and smooth. I tend to over-do things but I never have any problems, that AwlGrip primer sticks to anything, thats how I do the plexiglass tailights as well. And we buy the Imron on schedule C which is 5% over cost, but it didnt cost me anything for few ounces I used anyhow. The Imron is very scratch resistant as well.[/quote]

After payin for three quarts of guards red $200 a gallon seems damned reasonable I didnt go apeshit on the primer, however I was @ an impass on the finish, the Imron was on my mind but I went with a pre voc

acrylic lacquer which as you prob. know touches up well but isnt very durable. I wanted to put on a clear that was similar to Man O War as far as its durability charachteristics, However, I think ill go w/ the Imron, based on your good fortune w/ it. I would rather overkill it than mickey mouse it



Thanks

J

Rob x-7

Are you doing this in red or black? And is your surround rubber or plastic?

89 Rag

Im matching existing and painting black. The stereo surround is plastic, but the shift boot retainer is a rubber-like compound. The primer I used sticks very well, an epoxy, not Awl Grip, but an epoxy none the less.

Rob x-7

Im matching existing and painting black. The stereo surround is plastic, but the shift boot retainer is a rubber-like compound. The primer I used sticks very well, an epoxy, not Awl Grip, but an epoxy none the less.[/quote]

I thought 89s had that rubber surround? I would get a plastic set and do them instead of that rubber stuff, besides there are a ton of guys with the plastic who would buy the rubber one off you.

Rob x-7

Im matching existing and painting black. The stereo surround is plastic, but the shift boot retainer is a rubber-like compound. The primer I used sticks very well, an epoxy, not Awl Grip, but an epoxy none the less.[/quote]

Ive been toying around with that PPG no-sand epoxy for small jobs, I am a DuPont shop, one of my friends shop is PPG, he turned me on to it, nice for small things where I want a touch more build then DuPont VariPrime offers, and dont want to wait overnight for the AwlGrip to dry, for the bare metal its always the VariPrime or the AwlGrip ( the AwlGrip is even military-spec for bvare metal ), but on fiberglass I been trying that PPG ****- good stuff so far, but I always at least run a scuff pad over it before painting to knock down any fuzzies.

89 Rag

Im matching existing and painting black. The stereo surround is plastic, but the shift boot retainer is a rubber-like compound. The primer I used sticks very well, an epoxy, not Awl Grip, but an epoxy none the less.[/quote]

I thought 89s had that rubber surround? I would get a plastic set and do them instead of that rubber stuff, besides there are a ton of guys with the plastic who would buy the rubber one off you.[/quote]

I questioned the plastic surround and rubber retainer when I bought the car. It had 90k on it so im sure someone fucked w/ it, and it also got hit in the driver side front fender, not serious damage but it was easy to spot the shitty fix job someone did on the alum. hood and the shiny new control arm underneath. At any rate I still fixin all the **** thats wrong or that had been mickey moused, so it will be like brand new when im finished. Well, brand new with serious improvements throughout. Ill probably cop the plastic shift boot retainer soon, as I need to repalce the shift boot assy anyway.

89 Rag

Im matching existing and painting black. The stereo surround is plastic, but the shift boot retainer is a rubber-like compound. The primer I used sticks very well, an epoxy, not Awl Grip, but an epoxy none the less.[/quote]

Ive been toying around with that PPG no-sand epoxy for small jobs, I am a DuPont shop, one of my friends shop is PPG, he turned me on to it, nice for small things where I want a touch more build then DuPont VariPrime offers, and dont want to wait overnight for the AwlGrip to dry, for the bare metal its always the VariPrime or the AwlGrip ( the AwlGrip is even military-spec for bvare metal ), but on fiberglass I been trying that PPG ****- good stuff so far, but I always at least run a scuff pad over it before painting to knock down any fuzzies.[/quote]

Im a big fan of DuPont products as well, but usually im stuck using PPG, which isnt necessarily a bad product, just more difficult to work with charachteristics wise. Im usually prone to sand no matter what the product, or some salesman tells me the product is capable of, Its just that im kinda obsessive compulsive when it comes to my projects. I ****** hate mickey mouse bullshit, drives me nuts. Do it once, Do it right!