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OKIERX-7 06-06-2002 11:09 AM

Does anybody else just want to take a sledge to their car sometimes, or is it just me?



I've been working on this idle problem for weeks now. I finally get the idle down but now it bounces between 500-1100. I just can't get this sucker whipped..... After I get the new DP/presilencer put on, I guess I'm gonna have to take it to a shop.... : (

phinsup 06-06-2002 11:19 AM

Yea, I got that way with my Jeep a couple times, in fact it has a huge dent in the grill from a crow bar after I slapped the new motor in to find out the machine shope had plugged the wrong oil galley and spun all my fresh bearings....

vosko 06-06-2002 11:20 AM

it could be worse. atleast your car runs. if anyone can help you solve the problem its 13BAce. your better off driving the car to NJ to have him work on it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR

OKIERX-7 06-06-2002 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Jun 6 2002, 06:19 PM
Yea, I got that way with my Jeep a couple times, in fact it has a huge dent in the grill from a crow bar after I slapped the new motor in to find out the machine shope had plugged the wrong oil galley and spun all my fresh bearings....

awww man!

13BAce 06-06-2002 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jun 6 2002, 01:20 PM
it could be worse. atleast your car runs. if anyone can help you solve the problem its 13BAce. your better off driving the car to NJ to have him work on it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

I don't live in NJ. <_<

13BAce 06-06-2002 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by OKIERX-7' date='Jun 6 2002, 01:09 PM
Does anybody else just want to take a sledge to their car sometimes, or is it just me?



I've been working on this idle problem for weeks now. I finally get the idle down but now it bounces between 500-1100. I just can't get this sucker whipped..... After I get the new DP/presilencer put on, I guess I'm gonna have to take it to a shop.... : (

Did you try letting it idle with the narrow range TPS unplugged?

phinsup 06-06-2002 12:12 PM

Whoops I broke the forum for a sec, stupid DSL is up and down at work here, soooo it puked inthe middle of a file upload for a hack I was adding.

vosko 06-06-2002 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jun 6 2002, 11:58 AM
[quote name='vosko' date='Jun 6 2002, 01:20 PM']it could be worse. atleast your car runs. if anyone can help you solve the problem its 13BAce. your better off driving the car to NJ to have him work on it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR

I don't live in NJ. <_<[/quote]

i know. oops https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

OKIERX-7 06-06-2002 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jun 6 2002, 06:58 PM
Did you try letting it idle with the narrow range TPS unplugged? ?

No. I have the TPS set correctly according to the test lights. Are you saying I should just unplug the entire TPS or just pull the narrow range sensor off the TPS mount for now?



Even when I have the single green plug at the front left of the engine bay(forgot the name) grounded I get a surging idle, which I don't understand. It's funny, the surging starts to level out, but then will start all over again with original tempo. Like the ECU is trying to adjust but can't.



I'll give it a shot tomorrow. I'm too frustrated to mess with it anymore today.



Ever notice how the last few steps of any long, hard task always seem to be the hardest. I shoulda posted in the 2nd gen specific, but I wasn't really asking for help at first. Just whining.

13BAce 06-06-2002 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by OKIERX-7' date='Jun 6 2002, 03:43 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 6 2002, 06:58 PM']Did you try letting it idle with the narrow range TPS unplugged? ?

No. I have the TPS set correctly according to the test lights. Are you saying I should just unplug the entire TPS or just pull the narrow range sensor off the TPS mount for now?



Even when I have the single green plug at the front left of the engine bay(forgot the name) grounded I get a surging idle, which I don't understand. It's funny, the surging starts to level out, but then will start all over again with original tempo. Like the ECU is trying to adjust but can't.



I'll give it a shot tomorrow. I'm too frustrated to mess with it anymore today.



Ever notice how the last few steps of any long, hard task always seem to be the hardest. I shoulda posted in the 2nd gen specific, but I wasn't really asking for help at first. Just whining.[/quote]

See how it runs with the narrow range TPS unplugged.

13BAce 06-06-2002 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jun 6 2002, 03:38 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 6 2002, 11:58 AM'][quote name='vosko' date='Jun 6 2002, 01:20 PM']it could be worse. atleast your car runs. if anyone can help you solve the problem its 13BAce. your better off driving the car to NJ to have him work on it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

I don't live in NJ. <_<[/quote]

i know. oops https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png[/quote]

I wouldn't want anyone to think I live in NJ, not that NY is any better. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

UniqueTII 06-06-2002 02:12 PM

I think I would rather live in NJ than NY, but that's not saying much for either place. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

13BAce 06-06-2002 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by UniqueTII' date='Jun 6 2002, 04:12 PM
I think I would rather live in NJ than NY, but that's not saying much for either place. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

One of these days I'll find a nice place to live where nobody annoys me, but I'm afraid that will require living underground. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

phinsup 06-06-2002 03:17 PM

******* rabbits live underground... think how annoying they would get.



HA HA I can just see it now, your only contact with the outside world is the forum. You could just order everything off the internet... damn not a bad idea now that you mention it.

13BAce 06-06-2002 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Jun 6 2002, 05:17 PM
******* rabbits live underground... think how annoying they would get.



HA HA I can just see it now, your only contact with the outside world is the forum. You could just order everything off the internet... damn not a bad idea now that you mention it.

Didn't Lex Luthor live underground in Superman 2? He had a cool pad.http://www.supermanhomepage.com/imag...rs/luthor1.jpg

vosko 06-06-2002 05:47 PM

interesting :ph34r:

Rob x-7 06-06-2002 07:45 PM

Lex Luthor, ruler of Austrailia.

13BAce 06-06-2002 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jun 6 2002, 09:45 PM
Lex Luthor, ruler of Austrailia.

He lost his chance.

UniqueTII 06-07-2002 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jun 6 2002, 02:15 PM
[quote name='UniqueTII' date='Jun 6 2002, 04:12 PM']I think I would rather live in NJ than NY, but that's not saying much for either place. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

One of these days I'll find a nice place to live where nobody annoys me, but I'm afraid that will require living underground. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]

Honestly, nobody in Iowa bothered me until the other night. After some old guy in a huge Caddy tried to race me, some kids pulled up next to me, and the kid in the passenger sear kept saying: "Let me tell you...let me F'ing tell you." over and over...I felt like following them to see what the kid's malfunction was. I hope he wasn't talking ****...apparently he didn't see the NY plates. LOL

vosko 06-07-2002 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by UniqueTII' date='Jun 7 2002, 08:23 AM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 6 2002, 02:15 PM'][quote name='UniqueTII' date='Jun 6 2002, 04:12 PM']I think I would rather live in NJ than NY, but that's not saying much for either place. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

One of these days I'll find a nice place to live where nobody annoys me, but I'm afraid that will require living underground. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]

Honestly, nobody in Iowa bothered me until the other night. After some old guy in a huge Caddy tried to race me, some kids pulled up next to me, and the kid in the passenger sear kept saying: "Let me tell you...let me F'ing tell you." over and over...I felt like following them to see what the kid's malfunction was. I hope he wasn't talking ****...apparently he didn't see the NY plates. LOL[/quote]

crazy NY'ers https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

13b1stgen 06-07-2002 10:43 AM

you think NY is full of nuts come to MIami for a couple of days. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/moon.gif

phinsup 06-07-2002 10:46 AM

Yea Miami is full of fruits and nuts https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png j/k

SoniX 06-07-2002 02:27 PM

hehe, sometimes I am glad I don't live in miami, but then when I am stuck behind 3 old people in ancient caddies going 14 mph in a 45 zone, I realize that my town isn't all that great either, not to mention driving around all night looking for a single car to race. and all the people on this forum live far away, so no fun get togethers for me =( (or free parts for that matter)



Sarasota, the town that cool forgot

ILUVMY88CABRIO 06-07-2002 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Jun 7 2002, 07:46 AM
Yea Miami is full of fruits and nuts https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png j/k

I think that ALL of Florida is full of nuts. (except the people on this forum, of course). https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

SoniX 06-07-2002 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by ILUVMY88CABRIO' date='Jun 7 2002, 10:53 PM
[quote name='phinsup' date='Jun 7 2002, 07:46 AM']Yea Miami is full of fruits and nuts https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png j/k

I think that ALL of Florida is full of nuts. (except the people on this forum, of course). https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif[/quote]

hmm, I don't know if I would count out ALL the people on this forum. Speaking of which, Sorrow rpmwarz: https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png how often do you go down to de soto? we may have to meet up there some day

OKIERX-7 06-08-2002 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jun 6 2002, 09:03 PM
[quote name='OKIERX-7' date='Jun 6 2002, 03:43 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 6 2002, 06:58 PM']Did you try letting it idle with the narrow range TPS unplugged? ?

No. I have the TPS set correctly according to the test lights. Are you saying I should just unplug the entire TPS or just pull the narrow range sensor off the TPS mount for now?



Even when I have the single green plug at the front left of the engine bay(forgot the name) grounded I get a surging idle, which I don't understand. It's funny, the surging starts to level out, but then will start all over again with original tempo. Like the ECU is trying to adjust but can't.



I'll give it a shot tomorrow. I'm too frustrated to mess with it anymore today.



Ever notice how the last few steps of any long, hard task always seem to be the hardest. I shoulda posted in the 2nd gen specific, but I wasn't really asking for help at first. Just whining.[/quote]

See how it runs with the narrow range TPS unplugged.[/quote]

Even with the TPS unplugged, the car won't hold an idle below 1800........

13BAce 06-09-2002 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by OKIERX-7' date='Jun 8 2002, 08:46 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 6 2002, 09:03 PM'][quote name='OKIERX-7' date='Jun 6 2002, 03:43 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 6 2002, 06:58 PM']Did you try letting it idle with the narrow range TPS unplugged? ?

No. I have the TPS set correctly according to the test lights. Are you saying I should just unplug the entire TPS or just pull the narrow range sensor off the TPS mount for now?



Even when I have the single green plug at the front left of the engine bay(forgot the name) grounded I get a surging idle, which I don't understand. It's funny, the surging starts to level out, but then will start all over again with original tempo. Like the ECU is trying to adjust but can't.



I'll give it a shot tomorrow. I'm too frustrated to mess with it anymore today.



Ever notice how the last few steps of any long, hard task always seem to be the hardest. I shoulda posted in the 2nd gen specific, but I wasn't really asking for help at first. Just whining.[/quote]

See how it runs with the narrow range TPS unplugged.[/quote]

Even with the TPS unplugged, the car won't hold an idle below 1800........[/quote]

Have you tried adjusting the idle, or disabling the fast idle cam?


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