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banzaitoyota 09-30-2003 12:40 PM

"Our main goal is to promote the fun and enjoyment of owning, modifying, and racing Nissans."



SENTRA's Folks, freakin sentras!!!!!!



http://www.southern-shift.com/page2.htm

TYSON 09-30-2003 12:44 PM

More racing Sentras. Real racing though! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



Ontario Showroom Stock

vosko 09-30-2003 12:46 PM

hoooo boy

banzaitoyota 09-30-2003 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Sep 30 2003, 12:44 PM

Brought to you by the folks who have "curling" as a national pasttime

jayshadow 09-30-2003 01:13 PM

Why do people not like canadians?

j9fd3s 09-30-2003 01:14 PM

i like watching paint dry, can i drive a nissan?



mike

Sinful7 09-30-2003 01:15 PM

its not that we dont like canadians..

















oh, wait yes it is. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif



(Tyson, SpecialT are exceptions, barely. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR )

TYSON 09-30-2003 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by banzaitoyota' date='Sep 30 2003, 02:10 PM
[quote name='TYSON' date='Sep 30 2003, 12:44 PM'] More racing Sentras. Real racing though! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



Ontario Showroom Stock

Brought to you by the folks who have "curling" as a national pasttime [/quote]

HEHEHE it's not as easy as it looks!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

PhoenixDownVII 09-30-2003 01:48 PM

Watch yer comments. "I would rather do ____ than race a nissan" is too broad! Think Skyline! Think Silvia!



Now, to say "We love racing the nissan" and refer to the Sentra...now that should be a copyright infringement or plagierism.



LOL, isn't the Sentra an equivalent competitor of the Toyota Tercel I drive? That thing's a turd on lawnmower wheels! Tilts like a truck when I turn!

Jims5543 09-30-2003 02:26 PM

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There is a guy at our Autocross that just sold his POS Escort for a SpecV POS. He buys cars based on how well they PAX. Not actual performance. When we went to Sebring for an Autocross event where we saw the top of 3rd gear he got crushed even in the pax index.



I found 1 nice car on their site. Sorry about size I am at work and have no photo editing software installed.

TYSON 09-30-2003 02:38 PM

Up here they get the last Prelude's for PAX advantage. We don't have 3rd gear autocross courses and they get classed with Rustangs. The Mini Cooper S is looking like a good choice too.

PhoenixDownVII 09-30-2003 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Sep 30 2003, 03:38 PM
Up here they get the last Prelude's for PAX advantage.

PAX? P? AutoX.....Whats the P for? a specific kind/type [staying in third?]? Thanks.

TYSON 09-30-2003 03:22 PM

PAX is the method used so that slower cars can compete head to head with faster cars for the overall win at an event.



It's unfair to expect a Miata to compete head to head with an FD, so each cars times are multiplied by a factor chosen from in depth experience to get a new value to go in the overall standings.



ie: Lotus Super 7 w/ slicks 42.3 seconds (Class A mod, PAX 1.000)

FD time 49.5 seconds. (Class ASC, PAX 0.850)

Miata time 52.2 seconds (Class A/1, PAX 0.805)



Overall 'times'



Lotus - 42.3 seconds

FD - 42.075 seconds

Miata - 42.263 seconds





The FD wins, followed by the Miata then the Lotus, even though the Lotus went through the course more than 7 seconds faster than the FD.



Some cars are very strong in their class. Preludes VS Mustangs are a good example. On short tight courses, the Prelude has a natural advantage. On a longer course with more straightaways a well driven Mustang will have a better chance.



Check out our local results page to see how it's done.

WOSCA Results

Jims5543 09-30-2003 03:32 PM

PAX = is an indexing system that adjusts cars times so you can compare them from class to class. Like a Viper would pax in the 0.94 range and an Sentra would pax in the .72 range. BTW - these are guessed times I do not have a pax list in front of me.

When you multiply the pax to the time you get an adjusted time thats supposed to even things out.



I personally feel it is harder to get around a course 5 seconds faster in ANY car. Pax or no pax things are happening very fast in a faster car and it requires more skill to go fast.



Example my brother has a GXL with an identicle suspension setup as me in my 320RWHP TII. His 120RWHP GXL is FUN to Autocross with because it is not a beast. MY TII is a handfull and requires a lot more driver input to keep it going where you want it. I love racing my brothers car because you can conentrate on the course and not the car. You can hit the gas at the apex of a curve and not have to coutersteer to keep it pointed where you want.



Some guys like the Sentra purely for its PAX index being so good.

Jims5543 09-30-2003 03:34 PM

Or I could just say "Yeah what TYSON said".

banzaitoyota 09-30-2003 03:36 PM

Didn't Charlie Priddle invent the PAX formula?

Dramon_Killer 09-30-2003 03:43 PM

Most sentra's suck but the older SR20DE driven SE-R's arent too bad. It's still a Sentra but its the Type-R equivalent mostly.

TYSON 09-30-2003 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Sep 30 2003, 04:34 PM
Or I could just say "Yeah what TYSON said".

You must type 'MaD slOw, yO!!' https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



It took me 10 minutes to put that together and I still be you by 10 minutes https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



We need to PAX typing speed!!

j9fd3s 09-30-2003 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Sep 30 2003, 01:05 PM
You must type 'MaD slOw, yO!!' https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



It took me 10 minutes to put that together and I still be you by 10 minutes https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



We need to PAX typing speed!!

can you use the backspace key?

TYSON 09-30-2003 04:18 PM

Excessively! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png Looks like I did it to change the word 'beat' into 'be' and leave it that way. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/dry.png



An actual fast Sentra! World Challenge Project Car is almost finished now and will probably whoop my ass next year on a tight track, even though I plan to have 300 hp advantage!

mazdadrifter 09-30-2003 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Sep 30 2003, 01:05 PM
It took me 10 minutes to put that together and I still be you by 10 minutes https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

that's 6 minutes paxed

Jims5543 09-30-2003 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Sep 30 2003, 04:05 PM
You must type 'MaD slOw, yO!!' https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



It took me 10 minutes to put that together and I still be you by 10 minutes https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



We need to PAX typing speed!!

Actually I was thumbing through my SCCA Rule book looking for the PAX index so I could post real PAX's like you. I couldn't find them because its a rule book and you cannot find anything in a rule book until someone shows you in the rule book how you broke a rule. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png

j9fd3s 09-30-2003 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Sep 30 2003, 01:22 PM
[quote name='TYSON' date='Sep 30 2003, 04:05 PM'] You must type 'MaD slOw, yO!!' https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



It took me 10 minutes to put that together and I still be you by 10 minutes https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



We need to PAX typing speed!!

Actually I was thumbing through my SCCA Rule book looking for the PAX index so I could post real PAX's like you. I couldn't find them because its a rule book and you cannot find anything in a rule book until someone shows you in the rule book how you broke a rule. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png [/quote]

funny how that works

TYSON 09-30-2003 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Sep 30 2003, 05:22 PM
[quote name='TYSON' date='Sep 30 2003, 04:05 PM'] You must type 'MaD slOw, yO!!' https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



It took me 10 minutes to put that together and I still be you by 10 minutes https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



We need to PAX typing speed!!

Actually I was thumbing through my SCCA Rule book looking for the PAX index so I could post real PAX's like you. I couldn't find them because its a rule book and you cannot find anything in a rule book until someone shows you in the rule book how you broke a rule. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png [/quote]

Ha, I cheated! Ours are online and not that thick. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



SOLO II Ontario

TYSON 09-30-2003 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by jayshadow' date='Sep 30 2003, 02:13 PM
Why do people not like canadians?

http://www.cockyracingguy.com/pictur...uff/canada.jpg

j9fd3s 09-30-2003 08:18 PM

hmm so alaska is like the reach around?

banzaitoyota 09-30-2003 08:27 PM

Freaking frozen wasteland. If Canada is so freakin great: Why the hell does 85-90% of the population live within 100 miles of the US. What do you guys have besides Hockey and being the object of South Park's humor? EHHHH?

banzaitoyota 09-30-2003 08:28 PM

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png BTW J/K

TYSON 09-30-2003 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by banzaitoyota' date='Sep 30 2003, 09:27 PM
Freaking frozen wasteland. If Canada is so freakin great: Why the hell does 85-90% of the population live within 100 miles of the US. What do you guys have besides Hockey and being the object of South Park's humor? EHHHH?

Much lower crime rate, mostly. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

mazdaspeed101 09-30-2003 09:06 PM

I think we should take over canada,

rexguy 09-30-2003 09:33 PM

now come on, Nissans aren't that bad, being a rotor head first and foremost but I will give credit when due. Nissan's just suck here, I used to work at a tuner shop specializing in Nissan's and did tons of SR20DET swaps into 240's and Sentra's, and belive me those cars can scoot when all is said and done..............................

teknics 09-30-2003 10:17 PM

canada has gov't medical plans. kicks our country's ass in that department.



kevin.

mazdadrifter 09-30-2003 10:26 PM

i think that's only reason that it's populated

teknics 09-30-2003 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by mazdadrifter' date='Sep 30 2003, 10:26 PM
i think that's only reason that it's populated

that and they're about to legalize weed completely.



kevin.

mazdadrifter 09-30-2003 10:58 PM

great now they'll be useless, lazy and paranoid. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

teknics 09-30-2003 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by mazdadrifter' date='Sep 30 2003, 10:58 PM
great now they'll be useless, lazy and paranoid. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

but have a clean bill of health.



kevin.

Apex13B 09-30-2003 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Sep 30 2003, 10:58 PM
but have a clean bill of health.



kevin.

you have genital warts...move to canada to have them fixed

teknics 09-30-2003 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by Apex13B' date='Sep 30 2003, 11:04 PM
[quote name='teknics' date='Sep 30 2003, 10:58 PM'] but have a clean bill of health.



kevin.

you have genital warts...move to canada to have them fixed [/quote]

hey how was i supposed to know 4rr's sister had stds.



kevin.

mazdadrifter 09-30-2003 11:09 PM

i think i'd rather cut my genitals off

teknics 09-30-2003 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by mazdadrifter' date='Sep 30 2003, 11:09 PM
i think i'd rather cut my genitals off

that brings up a few choices tho, would you do it yourself, pay someone to do it, or setup something so you can sue someone for doing it for you?



kevin.


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