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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 08:46 AM
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I thought the cops did what they were supposed to do (as said the governer of Ohio). They don't carry around nightsticks for nothing you know.
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 08:54 AM
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OMG, this **** is getting annoying.



http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/12/04/d...tody/index.html



It's funny that the race card is pulled by some of the African American community when the Jones (the man who got his *** beat) was calling the police 'whiteboy' and 'redneck'.
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nowaves' date='Dec 4 2003, 02:52 AM
lets put it this way. the fat guy was on drugs (not in the right state of mind) laying on the ground cracked out or whatever . cops ask or picks him up and tries to arrest him , he resists ...he swings whatever , so the cops starts beating his ***..c'mon now we all now he got more of a beating then he deserves ..so the cops is gona beat his *** till they gets him handcuffed? ibet if there was a competition to see which cops and his partner could handcuff a fat guy on drugs , i will certainly for sure know it could be done without the beating. it was just an opening for the cops to say hey, hes on drugs heres our chance to beat the **** out of him and get away with it. and as for talking **** to an officer..u can say the **** u want to an officer and there not suppose to even touch you and i dout a cop would either.. or else i would of talked **** to an officer and sue his *** afterwards ..if i lived of course
Tell ya what, I will give you 10 dollars to walk up to a cop and tell him to **** off to his face. lol .... you can goto jail for that buddy, its called harrassment. And believe me, if you tell a cop to **** off, he WILL use that to the full extent.
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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This "beating" matter is cut and dry to me anyway. I was an MP in the Navy and to me this is simple "use of force to equal threat level". Some may argue that the cops had no reason to harass this man but probable cause did exist. A pattern of being belligerent and possibly intoxicated already existed. The officers, if anything used less force than necessary. The way things escalated they could very well have cleared leather and unholstered pistols on this lard-*** and been well within the rules of engagement...



And about the race card in general... Wow I should not get started



It does not matter if you are a white American, a white European, a white South African, a white Australian YOU are still a descendent of a slave owner to most black people! That is bullshit!!! My family came to America post emancipation, on a boat from Scotland and Ireland as indentured "servants". If it ever comes to the point where AMerica has to pay for reparation to the descendents of slaves, I WILL STOP PAYING TAXES THAT DAY!!! I feel bad that a people's way of life was turned upside down and that they where enslaved... But their own tribal chieftains sold them!



And just to humor me on this:



Q: Where is Egypt?

A: In Africa!



Q: Where are the Great Pyramids and the Sphinx?

A: in Egypt which is in Africa!



Q: Who built the pyramids and the sphinx?

A: Hebrew slaves!



Q: Does that mean Africa was one of the first societies to use slaves?

A: Yes it sure does!



Hebrews and Jews are not asking for money from all BLACK people for a hundred+ years of slavery and HARD labor. Hell they barely got anyhting from zee germans for zee holocaust... My point is certain ethnic groups have used slavery and certain groups have been slaves. Certain groups have even been both enslaved and task masters at different points in history. Get the **** over it! It is just an excuse to be lazy and to blame lack of success on someone, some elusive "the man", "oppressor", "heavy hand", "foot in the back keeping you down", or whatever fictional title you want to put on this personified evil. Newsflash ppl! If anyone has room to be dissatisfied it is not black ppl in America now. Thats what rubs me the wrong way... I would be ashamed if I got special privileges because of the color of my skin. I could not look at my classmates, colleagues, or whoever knowing that I was getting special treatment just to prevent some malcontent uprising in my race! Just to keep some volatile civil issue under wraps to prevent another ignorant display of violence. And lets face it folx, something from our generation too, in the riots of L.A. most damage was incurred by minorities business' and residences... THATS ******* IGNORANT! LETS WAGE WAR! AGAINST OURSELVES!







just my .02





RANT OVER...



...4 NOW
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by nowaves' date='Dec 4 2003, 05:52 AM
or else i would of talked **** to an officer and sue his *** afterwards ..if i lived of course
i hate it when people do things like that.

its like the woman who sued mcdonalds cause her kids are fat.

they should all be lined up and shot.
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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And about the race card in general... Wow I should not get started



It does not matter if you are a white American, a white European, a white South African, a white Australian YOU are still a descendent of a slave owner to most black people! That is bullshit!!! My family came to America post emancipation, on a boat from Scotland and Ireland as indentured "servants". If it ever comes to the point where AMerica has to pay for reparation to the descendents of slaves, I WILL STOP PAYING TAXES THAT DAY!!! I feel bad that a people's way of life was turned upside down and that they where enslaved... But their own tribal chieftains sold them!



And just to humor me on this:



Q: Where is Egypt?

A: In Africa!



Q: Where are the Great Pyramids and the Sphinx?

A: in Egypt which is in Africa!



Q: Who built the pyramids and the sphinx?

A: Hebrew slaves!



Q: Does that mean Africa was one of the first societies to use slaves?

A: Yes it sure does!



Hebrews and Jews are not asking for money from all BLACK people for a hundred+ years of slavery and HARD labor. Hell they barely got anyhting from zee germans for zee holocaust... My point is certain ethnic groups have used slavery and certain groups have been slaves. Certain groups have even been both enslaved and task masters at different points in history. Get the **** over it! It is just an excuse to be lazy and to blame lack of success on someone, some elusive "the man", "oppressor", "heavy hand", "foot in the back keeping you down", or whatever fictional title you want to put on this personified evil. Newsflash ppl! If anyone has room to be dissatisfied it is not black ppl in America now. Thats what rubs me the wrong way... I would be ashamed if I got special privileges because of the color of my skin. I could not look at my classmates, colleagues, or whoever knowing that I was getting special treatment just to prevent some malcontent uprising in my race! Just to keep some volatile civil issue under wraps to prevent another ignorant display of violence. And lets face it folx, something from our generation too, in the riots of L.A. most damage was incurred by minorities business' and residences... THATS ******* IGNORANT! LETS WAGE WAR! AGAINST OURSELVES!







just my .02





RANT OVER...



...4 NOW


A-*******-MEN
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Fd3BOOST' date='Dec 2 2003, 10:55 PM
And that is exactly the problem with the Justice system. People acting as judge and jury. Thank god you are no cop.



If you are stupid enough to attack a cop you should be locked up not beat to death.
If you're stupid enough to attack a cop then not stop, then you deserve whatever you get. Anyone else who was not doped up on PCP with health problems probably would have lived.



Bluntly if you're stupid enough to do drugs then you deserve whatever it is you get from it. It's not rocket science people.



They did try to stop him with choke holds (Oh wait you can't do that anymore, may hurt Johnnies self esteem) and all that, he wouldn't stop.



His dumbass problem, no one elses.
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 11:40 AM
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Mazdadrifter and I work w/ a Black guy and we were all talking about the vid on the news. He never looked at it as a race thing. It was just a strung out fool going nuts.



We have decided we all want new TV sets so we are heading out the front door of the office right now to go riot. We were going to run the 3 miles to Circuit City but decided to drive. Then run up and loot the place in the name of racism. Anyone need a VCR or DVD player?



Wish us luck.
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SPEED_NYC' date='Dec 3 2003, 02:42 PM
im not saying they beat him extra because he was black, im saying they beat him extra because they're ******* cops. and to the other ******** who think you have to start a fight with a cop to get beaten, you dont know what the **** you're talking about. have any of you police lovers out there ever been arrested? or physically assaulted by a cop? you dont gotta look too far to find a cop that will beat your *** for making a smart remark, or simply stating your rights to him.



some of you guys are living in an immaginary world where you think cops are the best our society has to offer. the truth is that cops are the **** of this society and just fill jobs that nobody else wants. anybody with a real education or some ambition in thier life would get a real job making real money. the ppl who dropped outta highschool and got thier ged's become cops and then feel like they have the right to treat people like ****.



IN REALITY THE COPS ARE ****!!!!



******* cop loving pussies.

heres an idea, all of you that think a cop will only beat you if you attack him, do this. next time you're in a dark parking lot and see a cop, look at him up and down and then whisper to him, "no wonder your wife left your ****** ***" i guarantee you will get an *** whipping that night.



Roan




Awww what's wrong Jr can't act like an ******* and get away with it? Just gotta act like a ******** and can't get why they want to get you?



If you're so stupid as to belive what you just said or worse yet not understand why people would take great delight in whipping your useless *** then you certainly deserve whatever it is the cops have done to you.



Get your bottle and get back to bed.
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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I'm gonna have to agree w/ what the majority is saying here.



I haven't seen the video, and from what i have heard of it the guy deserved an asskicking. You do something wrong, resist arrest, assault a cop, you're GOING to get your *** kicked. There's no doubt about that. I don't know a SINGLE cop that would NOT react that way if threatened, it's their job (so to speak). Perhaps he may have been beaten too much, but that's not for us to judge, we were not assaulted, the cops were. They were the ones who felt it was necessary to put an asswhooping on him for resisting arrest, then assaulting them, REGARDLESS OF COLOR.



Anyways, that's my .02



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