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Old 07-07-2008, 11:13 AM
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Both of them have every intent of driving this country into bankruptcy and leaving YOUR children with the bill, you go vote for Insane McCain or Barack Insane Obama and you get to explain to junior why he can't afford mac and cheese to feed himself when he grows up. Vote for one of the independents at least you can claim you tried. You want to be saying four years from now "yea i voted for McCain" or "yea I voted for Obama" i hope to hell not.



I really don't understand how anyone can say they are going to vote for one of those scumbags with a strait face, they are essentially the same thing TOXIC.
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Old 07-07-2008, 12:29 PM
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I'd like to see some hard info on running mates before I make my final decision. Betting on either one of these guys to last four years is anything but a sure bet.
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Old 07-07-2008, 01:20 PM
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This is something that I guarantee you will never hear Osama... er....I mean .. OBama say:



http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...politico/11553
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Old 07-07-2008, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1988RedT2' post='903882' date='Jul 7 2008, 02:20 PM
This is something that I guarantee you will never hear Osama... er....I mean .. OBama say:



http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...politico/11553


Like I said, I find is disappointing that the american people in general buy into the pandering bullshit (above is a great example) that these two are spewing. They're both a Jimmy Carter in the making, all kinds of great ideas and no ******* clue how to get them done. I'm gonna balance the budget, keep the bush tax cuts, set up a base in iraq like we have in germany, give money to faith based programs, take care of Iran BULL***********



I find almost impressive that we are running through the streets with protest signs at the fact we're stuck with voting on either one of these demons, it says a lot about the state of our society. Keep the people dumb, keep them afraid and strap them with debt, they'll do whatever you tell them.
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:51 PM
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Nuke the whales!
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:03 PM
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obama is going to win, at least out here.



i dont think that is a good thing really, he's just going to get us out of a recession by spending more money, but since we've already been doing that for a decade, i dont know where its going to come from....



i could also point out that he's got 3 years of experience.... he was a constitutional scholar forever, which is why he knows how to get elected, but once he gets in office he's both inexperienced and screwed.



mc cain lacks the focus to get elected....
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:10 PM
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3 years experience? more like less than one, he took the senate job and a year later started running for president, i'd be amazed if he's voted more then a handful of times. Now he wants to give money to "faith based charity's" so now the gov't is going to use MY tax money to finance the braindead religious zealots.





i'd put my money on McCain UNLESS, and there is one thing that could destroy him, that would if he gets sick at all or ends up in the hospital for any reason. mccain is just more Bush, more same old politicians he's been a senator forever, he's as much a part of the problem as all the rest of the useless dirtbags in teh senate, sans maybe two or three good senators.



They are both dirtbags, like i say we should be rioting in the streets for being forced by corporate america to vote on one of these two corporate shills.
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McCain can pretty much do anything and get the vote...the only thing that would destroy him if he turns out to be a transgender demi moore look-alike on weekends.
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Originally Posted by defprun' post='903927' date='Jul 7 2008, 09:36 PM
McCain can pretty much do anything and get the vote...the only thing that would destroy him if he turns out to be a transgender demi moore look-alike on weekends.


not at all true, if ends up in the hospital even for something stupid he's done.
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Like break a hip?
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