are we independent ?
07-04-2008, 11:45 AM
#14
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If I lived in the US, I'd be a little worried about that Obama guy
Was America not founded on Christianity?
He has THREE ISLAMIC NAMES. Nothing against Muslims. Don't focus on the wrong details.
Does he support Israel? That is really the biggest question. Is he going to support Israel as a nation, or will he force America not to recognize Israel? The **** will hit the fan, if the latter happens. If he supports Israel, then awesome.
I know I'm Canadian, but, America supports Israel, and has for YEARS. It's fact. Look it up. Now there is VOCAL people in the middle east, who are associated with Islam, who want to destroy Israel. I think he should make supporting Israel at the top of his list of duties, but think about the struggle that might be presented to him, trying to have peaceful relations with Islamic nations, and at the same time supporting Israel? He could become indifferent to Israel's fate! Then **** would hit the FAN!
He seems so clutch to me, he could save America, he could be exactly what America needs, yet at the same time, he could get America all fucked up just as easily.
America maintains peace, and Israel is no different. Israel should not be forgotten.
Was America not founded on Christianity?
He has THREE ISLAMIC NAMES. Nothing against Muslims. Don't focus on the wrong details.
Does he support Israel? That is really the biggest question. Is he going to support Israel as a nation, or will he force America not to recognize Israel? The **** will hit the fan, if the latter happens. If he supports Israel, then awesome.
I know I'm Canadian, but, America supports Israel, and has for YEARS. It's fact. Look it up. Now there is VOCAL people in the middle east, who are associated with Islam, who want to destroy Israel. I think he should make supporting Israel at the top of his list of duties, but think about the struggle that might be presented to him, trying to have peaceful relations with Islamic nations, and at the same time supporting Israel? He could become indifferent to Israel's fate! Then **** would hit the FAN!
He seems so clutch to me, he could save America, he could be exactly what America needs, yet at the same time, he could get America all fucked up just as easily.
America maintains peace, and Israel is no different. Israel should not be forgotten.
07-04-2008, 12:42 PM
#15
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Corporate shills, if those two are the best options "we" (even though we had nothing to do with the process) can come up with to lead this country, that right there says a lot about the current condition and future of our nation.
Neither one of those ******* idiots is a win for us the people. There's going to be over 500 million spent by each candidate to win this "election" if you think normal hard working citizens donate that money then you are as bad as they are. the fact that the only discussion i see is how bad the other candidate is, should say enough about the process without going any further, that's been the case for some time. the US citizens have been voting for the lesser of two evils. I guess in the past, I was to some degree ok with the voting for the lesser of two evils, I am however fairly disturbed by the fact that the massive amount of corporate media and advertising has convinced some people to actually get motivated behind one of these monsters and somehow convinced them one or the other is a "good" candidate.
It's just a sad situation and I'm extremely nervous about the future of this country.
Neither one of those ******* idiots is a win for us the people. There's going to be over 500 million spent by each candidate to win this "election" if you think normal hard working citizens donate that money then you are as bad as they are. the fact that the only discussion i see is how bad the other candidate is, should say enough about the process without going any further, that's been the case for some time. the US citizens have been voting for the lesser of two evils. I guess in the past, I was to some degree ok with the voting for the lesser of two evils, I am however fairly disturbed by the fact that the massive amount of corporate media and advertising has convinced some people to actually get motivated behind one of these monsters and somehow convinced them one or the other is a "good" candidate.
It's just a sad situation and I'm extremely nervous about the future of this country.
07-05-2008, 12:02 AM
#17
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I totally dig what phins is saying. Bigtime.
I watch alot of American political pundit shows.. The shows were about comedy years ago, but since this election is coming up, sometimes you see a darker side of what they are making you aware of, and it just screams "WAKE THE **** UP AMERICA". Obviously I don't qualify as any type of expert, but that's my perspective. I don't dig either candidate, and that's the nail on the head right there, lesser of two evils? That's BS. Everybody vote NADER or something. Just go big or go home, don't **** around with the guys who have the most positive forms of negative qualities.
Tons of room up in Canada phins, and we are known for coffee consumption!
I watch alot of American political pundit shows.. The shows were about comedy years ago, but since this election is coming up, sometimes you see a darker side of what they are making you aware of, and it just screams "WAKE THE **** UP AMERICA". Obviously I don't qualify as any type of expert, but that's my perspective. I don't dig either candidate, and that's the nail on the head right there, lesser of two evils? That's BS. Everybody vote NADER or something. Just go big or go home, don't **** around with the guys who have the most positive forms of negative qualities.
Tons of room up in Canada phins, and we are known for coffee consumption!
07-05-2008, 10:34 AM
#18
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this is why i wanna live on a boat like phinners. that way once the nuke is launched i can get out of here asap.
seriously this country is being politely delivered to its own demise....by the people "in charge"
kevin.
seriously this country is being politely delivered to its own demise....by the people "in charge"
kevin.
07-06-2008, 08:49 PM
#19
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Originally Posted by ColinRX7' post='903616' date='Jul 5 2008, 01:02 AM
Tons of room up in Canada phins, and we are known for coffee consumption!
Yea I got that PR pamphlet, how you are trying to change from being known for good weed and beer consumption to coffee consumption, personally I've got no issues with being known for any of the aforementioned.
On serious note I found out something very cool, in Canada you cannot search a canadian registered vessel without a search warrant. Here in the us anyone from fish and game, the local yocals to the coast guard can walk into my boat whenever they please.
I won't vote for either one of these two scumbags, I made that decision this year and hope more people won't, i'll vote for one of the independents, I don't want either one of those psychos thinking I actually support them.
07-07-2008, 08:04 AM
#20
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I'll vote just to get the "I Voted!" sticker, so people don't bug me about "DIDJA VOTE? DIDJA VOTE? DIDJA DIDJA DIDJA???"
This is the first election I've really paid attention to and started to care, and now I'm just disappointed. I'm registered Democrat, but I'm probably going to vote McCain, just because he seems less likely to turn the basket over and change everything, he doesn't seem like he's going to ruffle as many feathers.
This is the first election I've really paid attention to and started to care, and now I'm just disappointed. I'm registered Democrat, but I'm probably going to vote McCain, just because he seems less likely to turn the basket over and change everything, he doesn't seem like he's going to ruffle as many feathers.