http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0808/p04s02-usec.html
Any excuse they can, cause we all know the prices never go completely back down. |
I would like the damn oil companies to explain how they are making 200% profit margin & how that has NOTHING to do with the increased gas prices. Yea right a-hole oil companies.........ok there was my rant - I think I am done for now.
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Originally Posted by 93RX7R1' post='831796' date='Aug 7 2006, 08:24 PM
I would like the damn oil companies to explain how they are making 200% profit margin & how that has NOTHING to do with the increased gas prices. Yea right a-hole oil companies.........ok there was my rant - I think I am done for now. Dude yer just jealous because you cant think of any other industry in which you can sell less and make more... actually so am i. ******* joke, shortage my ass, i havent came accross one station out of gas. And this bullshit with hybrids, our big save is supposed to be a hybrid which by the way still uses plenty of fuel, some of the hybrids arent even getting over 40mpg and they cost a small fortune. |
I had heard that our "wonderful goverment" was going to put a tax on the hybrids due to the fact that they weren't going to be getting as much at the gas pumps from them. I don't know how true that is, but its something to think about.
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Originally Posted by 93RX7R1' post='831799' date='Aug 7 2006, 08:30 PM
I had heard that our "wonderful goverment" was going to put a tax on the hybrids due to the fact that they weren't going to be getting as much at the gas pumps from them. I don't know how true that is, but its something to think about. right now they are giving a tax credit for hybrids, keeping in mind that even the best hybrid the insight gets 60, most are sitting around 45 to 50. What really annoys the **** out of me is diesel, every other country diesel is significantly cheaper the gas, Costa Rica for example, it's like a buck a gallon compared to 3 for gas. Reason being is it requires less refinement. now they've got diesel up to more then regular unleaded. ******* nightmare. I cant really afford to drive my rx or my truck |
I cant wait for the winter, I bet home heating oil will be $3 a gallon at least.
I think I will get a pellet stove and wear heavy sweatshirts. |
I think I'll look into FREE ENERGY. I don't care what people think about the subject anymore.
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Yea i can commute in the sailboat, or maybe strap a sail on to my dinghy (that didnt come out right).
I got all excited a couple of days ago cause a place had diesel for $2.83 and i have two cans i need to fill for the boat, 10 gallons will prolly last a few months. I loaded up the cans the next day and went to the gas station, $2.96, 13 cents in less then 24 hours, awesome! As far as heating oil, right now is our "winter" so to speak here in florida, what i mean is this is when we use the most energy, luckily FPL got something like a 20% increase to cover the additional expenses of fuels, which is odd since something like 80% of our power comes from nuke plants. Oil prices are KILLING the economy, expecially retail sector. Too bad the effort in autos is going to hybrids instead of no fuel options like electric cars. |
im headin towards solar energy conversion for the home...
goin back to usin my motorcycle to commute.. did it for 2 years all seasons in the late 90s... |
Originally Posted by phinsup' post='831834' date='Aug 8 2006, 01:19 AM
... or maybe strap a sail on to my dinghy (that didnt come out right). Confucius say: Man with sail strapped to dinghy must beware of stiff breeze. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif |
****, I guess I shouldn't have sold my motorcycle. I'm thinking of buying a bicycle now. Sure, I'd have to leave work 45 minutes earlier, and probably reak of sweat all day, but maybe it would be worth the cost savings (not only gas, but insurance, oil, etc.).
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Originally Posted by Baldy' post='831870' date='Aug 8 2006, 05:03 AM
****, I guess I shouldn't have sold my motorcycle. I'm thinking of buying a bicycle now. Sure, I'd have to leave work 45 minutes earlier, and probably reak of sweat all day, but maybe it would be worth the cost savings (not only gas, but insurance, oil, etc.). If you really live that close to work get an electric golf cart -- They make some pretty cool ones. |
just curious, but where did you find the data saying that the oil companies are making a 200% profit?
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Originally Posted by GreyGT-C' post='831887' date='Aug 8 2006, 11:46 AM
just curious, but where did you find the data saying that the oil companies are making a 200% profit? we've established that once posted on an internet forum it becomes fact, so he needs not provide any further proof. |
obviously, it's true!
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Good luck finding any non-bias info regarding anything in the oil industry. I've set up a massive solar panel system in my yard 3 times and everytime for some odd reason it rains bits of lead on them and breaks them.
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i did however just come up with idea that could not only provide power, but also help america win it's war on the environment!! Whale oil!!! **** yea
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Originally Posted by Amy' post='831875' date='Aug 8 2006, 10:12 AM
If you really live that close to work get an electric golf cart -- They make some pretty cool ones. |
Originally Posted by phinsup' post='831890' date='Aug 8 2006, 09:00 AM
we've established that once posted on an internet forum it becomes fact, so he needs not provide any further proof. yes, actually teh intarweb has made science and its efforts obsolete, as well it should, its tedious and boring. its much better to say the oil companies have made an upswing in profits, not just due to the price of oil, but also because they operate in zero gravity... |
actually on the news yesterday some 'expert' said that gas will be down significantly by the end of the year. Right now he said the market is just on edge so little things make them jack the prices up but we are actually piling up oil. We are not selling as much as we use so it will continue to pile untill the decided 'well ****, we have a LOT of oil we need to get rid of'
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Glad I just got a new bike.......
On an energy note, Our power just got de-regulated. My electric bill was like $80 a month before, last month was $209. ******* assholes. |
Originally Posted by 93 R1' post='831930' date='Aug 8 2006, 04:05 PM
Glad I just got a new bike....... On an energy note, Our power just got de-regulated. My electric bill was like $80 a month before, last month was $209. ******* assholes. ours as over 300 i think, i dunno i'm not all that good with bills and the what not APPARENTLY from what i am told you are expected to pay them monthly, rather then when it's convenient. |
Originally Posted by amp' post='831850' date='Aug 8 2006, 07:00 AM
im headin towards solar energy conversion for the home... goin back to usin my motorcycle to commute.. did it for 2 years all seasons in the late 90s... I read about a guy that did that to his house, cost him $70000, thats alot of money! |
Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='831960' date='Aug 8 2006, 06:03 PM
I read about a guy that did that to his house, cost him $70000, thats alot of money! that sounds about right, i priced out about 1/3 reduction with solar and it was 25k to go 100% it costs even more as you have to store massive amounts of energy, to something like a 1/3 you dont have to store quite as much... keeping in mind that a good portion of y our consumption is in the evenng hours. |
mostly affecting the west coast
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******* scumbag politicians
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Originally Posted by phinsup' post='831962' date='Aug 8 2006, 06:18 PM
that sounds about right, i priced out about 1/3 reduction with solar and it was 25k to go 100% it costs even more as you have to store massive amounts of energy, to something like a 1/3 you dont have to store quite as much... keeping in mind that a good portion of y our consumption is in the evenng hours. this guy actually produced more electric then he needed at sometime, I think there is a way the electric company takes it back and you get credit for what you dont use there is also the matter of a large increase in your homeowners insurance to cover the equipment sitting on the roof. |
Why doesn't the government pull back the taxes on crude?
Wouldn't that alleviate the problem? Hello? |
Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' post='832038' date='Aug 9 2006, 08:55 AM
Why doesn't the government pull back the taxes on crude? Wouldn't that alleviate the problem? Hello? Yea they could just add that shortage to the deficet. Look GW looked into it and he assured us there is no gouging, so I dunno what you guys are complaining about. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png |
Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='832028' date='Aug 9 2006, 06:56 AM
this guy actually produced more electric then he needed at sometime, I think there is a way the electric company takes it back and you get credit for what you dont use there is also the matter of a large increase in your homeowners insurance to cover the equipment sitting on the roof. I dont know that they would even insure them here. |
Originally Posted by phinsup' post='832041' date='Aug 9 2006, 07:08 AM
Yea they could just add that shortage to the deficet. Look GW looked into it and he assured us there is no gouging, so I dunno what you guys are complaining about. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png oh, he did? why didn't you say so? |
It's magic, there's plenty of oil to burn, the alterior motive is to inconvenience the middle east out of thier sources of oil and put them back on camels, living in huts. Our government figured out how it can make it's own oil companies rich in the process under the illusion of an oil crisis conflict, and continues to exploit it to the fullest. The media simply adds "fuel" to the fire. Im guessing if someone dug far enough into it, alternative energy companies, auto manufacturers and the like are receiving healthy amounts of incentives (tax brakes, kickbacks) to boost production to add to the illusion.
Doesn't anyone else find it hard to believe that a fuel source millions of years in the making is suddenly nearing no longer existing in right around 100 hundred years? |
I'd believe it's getting more difficult to find new oil pockets, and that increased demand is taxing our delivery infrastructure. I don't, however, think that we're so low on resources that we need to wage war to protect it.
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Oil already ran out in the 70's remember? Gas stations ran out, prices rocketed and lines were miles long. where have you been
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thank god for the metro
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Looking at the two energy crises of 1973 and 1979, we find some common elements between the two. Both events:
1. started with political turmoil in some of the oil producing countries. 2. were associated with low oil stocks. 3. were associated with high import concentration from a small number of suppliers. 4. were associated with declining US petroleum production. 5. were associated with high dependency on oil imports. 6. were associated with low level of oil industry spending 7. led to speculation 8. caused an economic downturn 9. limited US policy options in the Middle East |
the major differences this time are threefold
1. in the 70's they were able to supplement the mideast oil with oil from south america, now the mid east and south america are pumping as fast as they can, and there isnt any south america waiting in the wings 2. china is BIG and its industrializing, they have increased the total worldwide demand for oil, by fifty fafillion kajillion rupees. 3. our leader is an idiot so basically, demand is up, supply isnt any different, and thus the prices for oil are headed up. #3 isnt helping |
Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='832110' date='Aug 9 2006, 11:37 AM
the major differences this time are threefold 1. in the 70's they were able to supplement the mideast oil with oil from south america, now the mid east and south america are pumping as fast as they can, and there isnt any south america waiting in the wings 2. china is BIG and its industrializing, they have increased the total worldwide demand for oil, by fifty fafillion kajillion rupees. 3. our leader is an idiot so basically, demand is up, supply isnt any different, and thus the prices for oil are headed up. #3 isnt helping 1. really close but Cuba is next on the list. The US would love to ***** out Cuba if they get the chance, so they are on the list as it is but who knows whats going on there. |
Somebody needs to find a vast reserve of oil on Cuba. We'd annex it tomorrow.
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