Well, all this talk about how FC's suck has made me mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.



Top reasons FD's suck:



1) They are the RX-7 that killed the RX-7 in the US. The FB was a huge sales success, the FC a moderate success, the FD was a dismal failure.



2) By making the FD, Mazda turned a fairly reliable car into a whiny demanding bitch--a trait the car shares with most of it's owners.



Shall I go on?

FD's are still better though.



And if you look into your research a little bit you'll find that FB's were cars that only women drove, FC's were in style in the 80's if your into that kinda thing, and FD's were an exotic sports car way ahead of its time in style, and was sports car of the year if i'm not mistaken.

top reasons why FC owners dont like FDs:



1. They think teh 80s rawk



2. They hate curves



3.Their mommy said insurance was too much for her to pay



4. Fast is NOT their thing



5. Looking good doesn't matter when you already wear clothes from red white and blue

[quote name='94touring' date='Jul 18 2005, 08:26 AM']...FD's were an exotic sports car way ahead of its time in style, and was sports car of the year if i'm not mistaken.


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Surely, you have mistaken the FD for the far better FC, which was in fact named import car of the year in 1986. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif



Actually, my research reveals that the FD won the same honor in 1993. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

[quote name='1988RedT2' date='Jul 18 2005, 09:41 AM']Surely, you have mistaken the FD for the far better FC, which was in fact named import car of the year in 1986. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif



Actually, my research reveals that the FD won the same honor in 1993. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif


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yep 1993 import car of the year motor trend

i've had 2 FC's and 2 FD's.





verdict:























































FC's suck

^ And there ya have it folks.

FB > FC

20B FD > white FD > FB > FC

The FB is on the top 10 sports cars of all time...I forget the mag, I'll have to find it...

[quote name='GreyGT-C' date='Jul 18 2005, 10:11 AM']20B FD > white FD > FB > FC


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yes that is something ill have to agree on





white FD > everything else

except 20B FD

Fd's are nice, but without the mods mazda made to them in japan over the years i dont think they could hold up against my driving like i can drive my fb.

and my car feels like a little tank...fds feel like they are gonna fall apart or something.

[quote name='1988RedT2' date='Jul 18 2005, 09:18 AM']Well, all this talk about how FC's suck has made me mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.



Top reasons FD's suck:



1) They are the RX-7 that killed the RX-7 in the US. The FB was a huge sales success, the FC a moderate success, the FD was a dismal failure.



2) By making the FD, Mazda turned a fairly reliable car into a whiny demanding bitch--a trait the car shares with most of it's owners.



Shall I go on?


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Okay, it's on!



1) FD's lack of sales was due to something out of it's control. It's what killed the Supra, the 300zx, and anything else in it's class. It was the hype and shift to the SUV market. Nothing to do with the FD vs. the FC/FB's. Nice try, though.



2) By making the FD, Mazda turned a fairly underpowered (i.e. Slow) engine into a competitive force to be reckoned with. I suppose they should have left the motor alone and used the TII setup against rival HP and track numbers like a 320HP supra? Riight. Or perhaps used the 3-Rotor engine but then post gas mileage numbers in the single digits accross the board?



I thought all of the FB/FC/FD bashing was a joke but if you want to play hardball I'm game.

God shutup they all rule. But the fb rocks cause its small and retains something the latter 7s dont have.



BEING SMALL.

[quote name='defprun' date='Jul 18 2005, 11:00 AM']God shutup they all rule. But the fb rocks cause its small and retains something the latter 7s dont have.



BEING SMALL.


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Agreed. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif



However I've driven an FB and own an FD and felt the opposite as to the way it "felt". FD feels solid as a rock, FB sounded and felt like it was going to fall apart. I love its small size and "Go-Kart" feel, as far as the drive go's.



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

two reasons FDs suck, is the price, and tarnishing the rotary reputation for reliability.



Original FD owners payed through the nose for maintenance, parts, and engines. So it drove up the price of used FDs.



And true or not, the FD is known to have a 60k mile engine(I personally dont believe that)

[quote name='PhoenixDownVII' date='Jul 18 2005, 09:48 AM']

I thought all of the FB/FC/FD bashing was a joke but if you want to play hardball I'm game.


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Haha. Chill, dude. It is.

The FB OWNS YOU ALL

[quote name='1988RedT2' date='Jul 18 2005, 11:33 AM']Haha. Chill, dude. It is.


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I'm as high as a kite, relax.



I guess I read your post wrong. We already had a FD bashing thread, but it quickly died due to the FD's supremacy mu har har

[quote name='PhoenixDownVII' date='Jul 18 2005, 11:37 AM']I'm as high as a kite, relax.



I guess I read your post wrong. We already had a FD bashing thread, but it quickly died due to the FD's supremacy mu har har


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gospel of the dan

[quote name='1revnrex' date='Jul 18 2005, 07:35 AM']The FB OWNS YOU ALL


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im sold.

only turbo FBs own it all

You're an idiot. I still love you.

hmmm man love

you love it

I have determined that FB's in their day were for woman or gay men. Think about the market of cars in that time frame. Those were the days of big hunks of steel muscle cars. What kind of straight guy was gona be caught dead in a little tiny import of a rotary powered FB? Women and gay men.

[quote name='94touring' date='Jul 18 2005, 12:02 PM']I have determined that FB's in their day were for woman or gay men. Think about the market of cars in that time frame. Those were the days of big hunks of steel muscle cars. What kind of straight guy was gona be caught dead in a little tiny import of a rotary powered FB? Women and gay men.


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The muscle car was long dead by 1979. The American auto industry was making big square cars with wimpy smogged-out V8 engines that handled like boats. Anyone looking for a cleanly styled, lightweight and sporty automobile was looking to Porsche, Datsun, and Mazda. Their sexual orientation really didn't have much to do with it. Lots of rich old fags drove Cadillacs.

[quote name='1988RedT2' date='Jul 18 2005, 01:43 PM']The muscle car was long dead by 1979. The American auto industry was making big square cars with wimpy smogged-out V8 engines that handled like boats. Anyone looking for a cleanly styled, lightweight and sporty automobile was looking to Porsche, Datsun, and Mazda. Their sexual orientation really didn't have much to do with it. Lots of rich old fags drove Cadillacs.


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Weren't YOU a rich old fag in 1979?

[quote name='PhoenixDownVII' date='Jul 18 2005, 02:12 PM']Weren't YOU a rich old fag in 1979?


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he wasn't alive in 1979 kiddo

[quote name='defprun' date='Jul 18 2005, 10:34 AM']Fd's are nice, but without the mods mazda made to them in japan over the years i dont think they could hold up against my driving like i can drive my fb.


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I've seen you drive. We had to keep stopping so you could keep up! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

[quote name='1988RedT2' date='Jul 18 2005, 09:18 AM']Well, all this talk about how FC's suck has made me mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.



Top reasons FD's suck:



1) They are the RX-7 that killed the RX-7 in the US. The FB was a huge sales success, the FC a moderate success, the FD was a dismal failure.



2) By making the FD, Mazda turned a fairly reliable car into a whiny demanding bitch--a trait the car shares with most of it's owners.



Shall I go on?


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you forgot 3...



3) I dont own one.



and for the past few weeks i havent either........... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

[quote name='treceb' date='Jul 18 2005, 02:20 PM']

and for the past few weeks i havent either........... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif


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What happend to your FD in the past few weeks, ya sold it?!??!



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

[quote name='PhoenixDownVII' date='Jul 18 2005, 01:12 PM']Weren't YOU a rich old fag in 1979?


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No. And I'm still not rich. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

[quote name='nopistons94' date='Jul 18 2005, 01:16 PM']he wasn't alive in 1979 kiddo


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https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



I'm probably older than yo' daddy, kiddo!

[quote name='nopistons94' date='Jul 18 2005, 10:46 AM']only turbo FBs own it all


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https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

[quote name='94touring' date='Jul 18 2005, 09:02 AM']I have determined that FB's in their day were for woman or gay men. Think about the market of cars in that time frame. Those were the days of big hunks of steel muscle cars. What kind of straight guy was gona be caught dead in a little tiny import of a rotary powered FB? Women and gay men.


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I have to agree with 1988redT2. there weren't any muscle cars coming out then. The '82 stang with a 5.0 in '82 but that wasn't well recieved either. A lot of the little imports were viewed as OK. The Big american V8s were viewed as Dinosour material. You look at the numbers of units sold. The FB was huge. The FC was close but the FB was larger in units sold. I'll get numbers

i still like the whole "fds are soo much faster then fcs" thing. hell im sure i know an fb and an fc that can beat you all, no matter how much work you got in your shitbox.



generalizing fcs and saying there all slow just leaves you open to an ass-whooping. next spring folks, next spring ill be tuned and ready to go.



kevin.