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In the above article a guy writes a letter about seatbelts, how it's his right to decide if he should wear one or not, not the government. This was september 04





The next article is about how he dies 4 months later because he was the only one not wearing a seatbelt during an accident!!

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that sucks for him.



survival of the fittest.

yeah, someone posted that on the Tundra forum a few days ago. I think its kinda funny. The dumbass got what was coming. i feel sorry for his family and friends though.

I was a volunteer fire fighter for 5 years, we did first response and all that crap, and I watched several ppl die cuz they couldn't get out of their seatbelt (2-3 fires, and one drowning..), now I wear my seat belt EVERY time I get in the car, but I always think about that first...



Sean

5 point harness with single point quick release is the solution to that Crashfactory.

in some places it's llegal to wear a 5 point or any after market harness, because anymoron can install one

the first pro7 car we built had a cam lock harness, the driver managed to unlock it and then crash the car and he broke a couple of ribs and put his helmet into the windshield.



conclusion: you cant predict the kind of accidents people will hurt themselves in!

The vert has 4 point harnesses. Its parked though.



the truck would be kinda funny looking with 4 or 5 point harnesses. Unless I turned it into a prerunner or something.....

In Canberra it's ok to have 4-5 point harnesses, but if the cops stop you, you better have a engineered cirtificate with you for proof it was installed correctly and by a pro dealer.

keep in mind, i live in south Mississippi. when a cop down here would pull me over and look in and see my harnesses, he would forget about the ticket and start asking about the car. That happened 3 times.



and we have no emissions laws, so i was free to tell the cops everything. they all thought it was pretty cool.

My car comes with a 4-point harness as standard https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png, that, polybushed suspension and 11k rpm.



Mark

In some cases, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but how many of us wear our seatbelts in the back seat every time?

Me. i never ride in a car without a seat belt, with 3 exceptions:

1, I'm gettin some in the back seat

2, there are no seatbelts

3, on a long trip, and i'm layin down on the back floor (Minivan)



thats it. After the wrecks that I've been through, I feel weird when I don't wear one.

Yeah same here, it feels strange when I'm not wearing one - thankfully it's not for the same reason as yourself, I've just gotten myself into the habit of doing it.



Mark

If your gonna run a 4 or 5 point harness in a street car you better make sure you have rollover protection.

Good point.



Mark

and if you have that in a street car make sure you cant bang your head on it!

Someone from Japan on here did that, remember? He got a good gash in his head.

I had a 4 point roll bar, but took it out because it got in the way of the top going down.....



I never really thought about that when i had the harnesses though. I would put the roll bar back in if I was racing or anything though.... I had mounts welded in. I sold the cage when I parked the car.

Darwin Award?