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Old 08-13-2003, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pengaru' date='Aug 13 2003, 03:25 PM
I'm not sure what bike you should start out on, but if you are interested in learning how to ride a sportbike properly, check out this book 'a twist of the wrist' by keith code, theres a sequel 'a twist of the wrist 2' which is good also.



I'm also learning how to ride sportbikes and initially I figured it would be easy to learn and I know some people who ride regularly. But there are some things about riding that are not intuitive, like steering, and even some people I know who ride regularly don't know how they steer. They actually think they're leaning the bike at speed by shifting their weight and steering as a result. I almost got in a accident taking a friends bike out and using this method, you cannot steer a bike at speed this way.
In florida, if you're under 21, you're required to take a Motorcycle Safety Foundation safe-rider course, or something like that. It also gives you a break on insurance. Anyway, they teach the physics and stuff of how you actually steer. Push right, go right. It blows people's minds when I tell them that.
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Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Aug 13 2003, 07:34 PM
[quote name='pengaru' date='Aug 13 2003, 03:25 PM'] I'm not sure what bike you should start out on, but if you are interested in learning how to ride a sportbike properly, check out this book 'a twist of the wrist' by keith code, theres a sequel 'a twist of the wrist 2' which is good also.



I'm also learning how to ride sportbikes and initially I figured it would be easy to learn and I know some people who ride regularly. But there are some things about riding that are not intuitive, like steering, and even some people I know who ride regularly don't know how they steer. They actually think they're leaning the bike at speed by shifting their weight and steering as a result. I almost got in a accident taking a friends bike out and using this method, you cannot steer a bike at speed this way.
In florida, if you're under 21, you're required to take a Motorcycle Safety Foundation safe-rider course, or something like that. It also gives you a break on insurance. Anyway, they teach the physics and stuff of how you actually steer. Push right, go right. It blows people's minds when I tell them that. [/quote]

Thats cool, they don't do that here as far as I know. It's funny when you talk to experienced riders and ask them how they steer and they don't know what counter steering is. I guess it's no surprise there are so many deaths on motorcycles every year, if so many of them havent even learned how the bike actually steers, how can they be in control.
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Old 08-13-2003, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by pengaru' date='Aug 13 2003, 04:02 PM
[quote name='Baldy' date='Aug 13 2003, 07:34 PM'] [quote name='pengaru' date='Aug 13 2003, 03:25 PM'] I'm not sure what bike you should start out on, but if you are interested in learning how to ride a sportbike properly, check out this book 'a twist of the wrist' by keith code, theres a sequel 'a twist of the wrist 2' which is good also.



I'm also learning how to ride sportbikes and initially I figured it would be easy to learn and I know some people who ride regularly. But there are some things about riding that are not intuitive, like steering, and even some people I know who ride regularly don't know how they steer. They actually think they're leaning the bike at speed by shifting their weight and steering as a result. I almost got in a accident taking a friends bike out and using this method, you cannot steer a bike at speed this way.
In florida, if you're under 21, you're required to take a Motorcycle Safety Foundation safe-rider course, or something like that. It also gives you a break on insurance. Anyway, they teach the physics and stuff of how you actually steer. Push right, go right. It blows people's minds when I tell them that. [/quote]

Thats cool, they don't do that here as far as I know. It's funny when you talk to experienced riders and ask them how they steer and they don't know what counter steering is. I guess it's no surprise there are so many deaths on motorcycles every year, if so many of them havent even learned how the bike actually steers, how can they be in control. [/quote]

yeah, I've read stories about wrecks caused my target-fixation, where they would stare at a truck, try to lean out of the way, but end up getting smushed. If only they knew...



lesson here? get proper instruction!
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my buddy at work just bought a Vulcan 1500 and he says that you actually steer in the opposite direction of the turn and the bike will just lean. Push right to go right, like Baldy said.
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I just got a '94 Yamaha FZR 600 as a starter sport bike. I don't know a lot about sport bikes but I do know when the FZR was first introduced it had the best frame and other manufacturers copied it. It was called the Deltabox frame, today new R6's and R1's have a deltabox 3 frame. I am not sure about older YZF's having weak frames but I have read that the frame on the fzr 400, 600, and 1000 is a very good frame.



As for my bike I think it is a great starter bike, it's light and narrow, easy to flick. It's not too powerful (that's why I am not dead yet) and it's a cheap bike to start with. (Got mine for 2k) I weigh about 180 and sometimes it seems a little underpowered for me (it's completely stock), I originally wanted a GSX-R 750 and still want one, or a CBR 600, 900. I would definately not get a Katana. The FZR is a better bike all around, if you look online you can find comparisons of the FZR and the Katana and generally the consensous is the FZR is a better bike. I think if you want a good sport bike to start on an older CBR or FZR or YZF would be better than a Katana, just my opinion though.
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Originally Posted by ytboy4ever' date='Aug 13 2003, 02:30 PM
I would definately not get a Katana. The FZR is a better bike all around, if you look online you can find comparisons of the FZR and the Katana and generally the consensous is the FZR is a better bike. I think if you want a good sport bike to start on an older CBR or FZR or YZF would be better than a Katana, just my opinion though.
Oh, thanks for the input - i want to make sure were both talking about a new(er) 2001+ katana.



I've been watching 2003 Katana 750's go for 5800 with ~2k-5k miles in my area.
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How about you get one with training wheels! They are cool and awesome to watch at the track but that is where I draw the line. My as is gonna need 4 wheels if I am gonna go faster then 60mph!
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Whatever you get, please let me buy an insurance policy on you.
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