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Leetheslacker 08-10-2005 01:38 AM

what the?



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75 Repu 08-10-2005 01:42 AM

Nice.. id rock it..

nismo convert 08-10-2005 01:44 AM

huh even fwd huh, no torque steer

ryderx 08-10-2005 02:52 AM

ide drive it

Black8 08-10-2005 08:22 AM

That is retarded..........

jgarza77 08-10-2005 08:37 AM

hope he figured something out with those CV joints, dont those have toothpicks for halfshafts? heavy chrome-oversized wheels, twice the power............SNAAAP!!



I wonder what he has that top engine mount hooked up to, almost looks like its on the waterpump?



Great Job IMO.

ambassador_josh 08-10-2005 12:32 PM

I bet that set'em back a couple of hundred bucks lol

Sinful7 08-10-2005 01:06 PM

[quote name='nismo convert' date='Aug 9 2005, 11:44 PM']huh even fwd huh, no torque steer

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nismo convert 08-10-2005 03:56 PM

on a seriousish note, just think how straight that exhaust could be....

ColinRX7 08-10-2005 05:51 PM

[quote name='jgarza77' date='Aug 10 2005, 09:37 AM']hope he figured something out with those CV joints, dont those have toothpicks for halfshafts? heavy chrome-oversized wheels, twice the power............SNAAAP!!



I wonder what he has that top engine mount hooked up to, almost looks like its on the waterpump?



Great Job IMO.

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Welded a brace to bolt onto the 1st gen front cover, easy to see...





Why has NOBODY asked or been curious about bolting a FWD transmission to a rotary? That doesn't make sense!



Input shaft size? Clutch? Flywheel? Disc? BELLHOUSING?! ALL CUSTOM?!?! I NEED ANSWERS!!!

inanimate_object 08-10-2005 06:08 PM

I'd take the engine and box out and stick it in the back of something light.



Mark

RONIN FC 08-10-2005 06:11 PM

[quote name='inanimate_object' date='Aug 10 2005, 06:08 PM']I'd take the engine and box out and stick it in the back of something light.



Mark

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MR2?

inanimate_object 08-10-2005 06:15 PM

Mmm... lighter.



Mark

ColinRX7 08-10-2005 07:18 PM

I really want to know how they set up the transaxle





seriously people what are the odds a stock tercel transmission has the same input shaft and spline of a 1st gen RX7



Let alone the flywheel will fit in the bell housing





and stock ring gear work with the stock starter









and pressure plate / throw out assembly all works







WHAT ARE THE ODDS

Black8 08-10-2005 07:24 PM

[quote name='ColinRX7' date='Aug 10 2005, 02:51 PM']Welded a brace to bolt onto the 1st gen front cover, easy to see...

Why has NOBODY asked or been curious about bolting a FWD transmission to a rotary? That doesn't make sense!



Input shaft size? Clutch? Flywheel? Disc? BELLHOUSING?! ALL CUSTOM?!?! I NEED ANSWERS!!!

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I've never cared because I hate FWD and transverse engine setups.......



The idea to do that swap is idiotic, but the execution is impressive....

inanimate_object 08-10-2005 07:33 PM

Colin,



The guy's building the cars like mine mate all kinds of engines to all kinds of gearboxes - I don't know personally how they do it, but I've just asked on the other forum I keep an eye on so i'll let you know the answer.



Mark

banzaitoyota 08-10-2005 08:07 PM

looks decent

-=DRIFT=- 08-10-2005 09:29 PM

i think most imput shafts are pretty much the same, most car manufacturers use the same trans for a wide variety of cars, example, the 6 speed in the rx8 is also found in the is300, miata and a few other rwd cars. also, this tran (tercel) is used on tercs from day one, and actually,and a few other cars such as the starlets, paseos etc. i thought up this swap like a year ago, and never ended up doing it. Tercs weight just 1900 lbs to begin with, and a rotary should bring it down at least 50 lbs, as the stock cast iron block is really heavy. plus kicking ass in a DD is hawt, and not alot of fast tercs are around

inanimate_object 08-11-2005 07:30 AM

Got an answer back, the secret is to find a gearbox with a longer input shaft that the box that came with the engine, you then make an adaptor plate to sit between the bellhousing/engine (which also takes care of the different bolt pattern issues). The thickness of this plate is exactly the difference in length between the old input shaft and the new one, effectively putting the new input shaft in the right place.



After this you may need to modify the flywheel to take the new clutch, but apparently this can't be too difficult.



Mark

ColinRX7 08-11-2005 09:54 AM

[quote name='inanimate_object' date='Aug 11 2005, 08:30 AM']Got an answer back, the secret is to find a gearbox with a longer input shaft that the box that came with the engine, you then make an adaptor plate to sit between the bellhousing/engine (which also takes care of the different bolt pattern issues). The thickness of this plate is exactly the difference in length between the old input shaft and the new one, effectively putting the new input shaft in the right place.



After this you may need to modify the flywheel to take the new clutch, but apparently this can't be too difficult.



Mark

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Still though what about the ring gear on the flywheel, and hows the starter going to hit it?

sexycheerleader 08-11-2005 11:07 AM

you could cut the bell housing of a fc tranny then weld it in the proper place of the new cars tranny. that is if the spline lined up and then use all the fc stuff starter and what not.

inanimate_object 08-11-2005 11:20 AM

[quote name='ColinRX7' date='Aug 11 2005, 03:54 PM']Still though what about the ring gear on the flywheel, and hows the starter going to hit it?

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The flywheel stays in the same position so that's all ok.



Mark

Sinful7 08-11-2005 11:38 AM

Mebbe I'm a DUMBASS?

ColinRX7 08-11-2005 05:23 PM

[quote name='inanimate_object' date='Aug 11 2005, 12:20 PM']The flywheel stays in the same position so that's all ok.



Mark

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No, not for the starter





Not if now you have a huge spacer installed to compensate for the length of the input shaft

inanimate_object 08-11-2005 05:27 PM

Ahhh. The adapter plate thingy is just a ring, a bit like a bellhousing extension.



Mark

ColinRX7 08-11-2005 05:36 PM

Yeah.. And the starter, considering it's still bolted in the stock bellhousing hole, just wont have the length to hit the gear, it'll miss by exactly the width of the adapter.. So you'd have to install the adapter and shift the mounting for the starter forward to hit the gear... Or SOMETHING! lol







I think this thing is cool **** because theres so much more to it than just dropping it in! I really want to know how they handled such issues..

inanimate_object 08-11-2005 05:43 PM

I've never seen a starter that wasn't on the engine side, but I'm assuming that from what you're saying this is not the case with a rotary - in which case you could have a problem. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif



Mark

Shane.Trammell 08-11-2005 05:51 PM

yeah the starter is on the tranny sid

Shane.Trammell 08-11-2005 05:51 PM

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inanimate_object 08-11-2005 06:02 PM

I'm sure it would be possible to run a starter off the pulley belt?



Mark

ColinRX7 08-11-2005 09:26 PM

[quote name='inanimate_object' date='Aug 11 2005, 07:02 PM']I'm sure it would be possible to run a starter off the pulley belt?



Mark

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rotarychainsaw 08-11-2005 09:29 PM

its a push start.


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