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Rob x-7 03-01-2005 02:53 PM

looks like Toyota is bringing back the FJ, rumors are that Ford will bring back a Bronco as well, this is some retro I can deal with.



http://estaticos.elmundo.es/elmundom..._cruiser_g.jpg



http://www.truckworld.com/Industry-N...co_concept.jpg

Seppuku 03-01-2005 02:55 PM

That bronco looks like a cheap toy car to me.

nightwolf_4_98 03-01-2005 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Seppuku' date='Mar 1 2005, 12:55 PM
That bronco looks like a cheap toy car to me.




agreed

Rob x-7 03-01-2005 02:57 PM

the ford is a concept, it wont look EXACTLY like that



the point is they look like the old models which were very desirable

http://www.radersrelics.com/showroom_2/1969_ford1.jpg

http://www.jeepmud.com/images/readri...rian/front.jpg

phinsup 03-01-2005 02:57 PM

That bronco is wicked.

Rob x-7 03-01-2005 03:01 PM

if they made another International Scout then we would have a dillema!

http://199.239.248.45/images/full/20...7scout5302.jpg

Seppuku 03-01-2005 03:01 PM

I will say that they are more tasteful than some of that other **** theyre making now. I like it mostly but it will need some change from the concept.

TYSON 03-01-2005 03:02 PM

FJ40 with a diesel would be cool.

Rob x-7 03-01-2005 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Mar 1 2005, 04:01 PM
FJ40 with a diesel would be cool.




245hp V-6 will have to do

nightwolf_4_98 03-01-2005 03:03 PM

scouts are freakin awsome, my uncle has one that im tryin to get him to give me

bart3lz 03-01-2005 03:19 PM

that ford looks like their version of a landcruiser or one of those mercedes suv's that celebs drive cuz theyre pretty and shiny.



and BLING BLINGY

banzaitoyota 03-01-2005 04:39 PM

LANDCRUSHER!!!!!

Rob x-7 03-01-2005 04:46 PM

this is a modern TOYOTA FJ40, not a landcruiser, they did make both https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

G2G 03-01-2005 04:50 PM

Ford already makes: the explorer, expedition, excursion, and escape. Why would they add a fifth suv on the market?



- Hand

Shane.Trammell 03-01-2005 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by G2G' date='Mar 1 2005, 04:50 PM
Ford already makes: the explorer, expedition, excursion, and escape. Why would they add a fifth suv on the market?



- Hand




i think theyre trying to call that freestyle an suv too, but we all know its a station wagon

Rob x-7 03-01-2005 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by G2G' date='Mar 1 2005, 05:50 PM
Ford already makes: the explorer, expedition, excursion, and escape. Why would they add a fifth suv on the market?



- Hand




because the people want the Bronco back

TYSON 03-01-2005 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by G2G' date='Mar 1 2005, 05:50 PM
Ford already makes: the explorer, expedition, excursion, and escape. Why would they add a fifth suv on the market?



- Hand






Agreed, and their also having real trouble selling them.



However, IF they were to bring out another, it would pretty much HAVE to be some kind of limited production banner vehicle like this one.

G2G 03-01-2005 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Mar 1 2005, 05:52 PM
because the people want the Bronco back




The people have wanted the 7 back for years, but you sure as **** don't see it on the market now?



- Hand

teknics 03-01-2005 04:57 PM

that bronce is a turbo diesel...and the concept had nitrous as well.



kevin.

Rob x-7 03-01-2005 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by G2G' date='Mar 1 2005, 05:56 PM
The people have wanted the 7 back for years, but you sure as **** don't see it on the market now?



- Hand




thats because it didnt sell

the Bronco sold, they just decided it was time to retire the nameplate

Rob x-7 03-01-2005 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Mar 1 2005, 05:53 PM
Agreed, and their also having real trouble selling them.



However, IF they were to bring out another, it would pretty much HAVE to be some kind of limited production banner vehicle like this one.




Ford sells about 400,000 explorers every year, never mind the others they sell

they have the best selling SUV in the market, never mind the best selling vehicle in the world- the F-series pick ups.

TYSON 03-01-2005 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Mar 1 2005, 07:04 PM
Ford sells about 400,000 explorers every year, never mind the others they sell

they have the best selling SUV in the market, never mind the best selling vehicle in the world- the F-series pick ups.






Exploder sales are down nearly 20% from this time last year. Trucks are down more than 10%. People are finally coming to their senses and not buying them to drive around empty in the suburbs.



http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialne...d=apn_home_down

Rob x-7 03-01-2005 07:19 PM

but they STILL sell more then anyone else does combined



so when sales of a type of vehicle drop they should stop coming out with new models?

G2G 03-01-2005 07:47 PM

First I was afraid, I was petrified,

Kept thinking I could never live, without you by my side,

But I spent so many nights, thinking how you did me wrong,

I grew strong, I learned how to carry on,

and so you're back, from outer space,

I just walked in to find you here, with that sad look upon your face,

I should have changed my stupid lock, I should have made you leave your key,

If I had known for just one second, you'd be back to bother me,





- Hand

TYSON 03-01-2005 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Mar 1 2005, 08:19 PM
but they STILL sell more then anyone else does combined



so when sales of a type of vehicle drop they should stop coming out with new models?






Remember the early 90s? There used to be a lot of sports cars.







The F series BARELY outsold GM trucks last year, despite being completely redesigned. The Explorer didn't outsell the Trailblazer by that much.



Remember GM sales are split between GMC and Chevy, but are counted seperately.



http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?c...=windowshopping





Ford isn't exactly know for breaking any design barriers. They'll make cool concepts but rarely bring them out.

psyclo 03-01-2005 08:36 PM

SUVs are in the maturity of their product life, the fad of having them will die slowly, and from some marketing stuff I know they will probably bring out a bronco as companies stress brand name and such as a product is at maturity to try to distinguish it.

venomrx7 03-01-2005 09:41 PM

The suv market has just shifted. It is now in the "high class" sales of suvs from Lexus, Infinity, Mercedes, and other upper line brands have gone up. (I may be wrong, this is what i have read)



The reason fords sales have gone down is because people have finally realized that they really do suck. The new F series has so many problems that its not even funny....



And in other news...



Toyota recently surpassed ford to become the 2nd top selling motors company in the world.



It is now



#1 - General Motors

#2 - Toyota

#3 - Ford



This is international sales, not just in the US...

75 Repu 03-01-2005 09:45 PM

I was just lookin at the FJ40 dealy a few days ago.. and I really like it.. whats odd is that it says it is meant to be at a lower tier than the Rav 4... thats odd.. but hey.. more affordable = Win.. unless it does not perform to the bar set by the landcruiser Legacy..



and the bronco looks nice too.

Rob x-7 03-02-2005 05:54 AM

you all seem to forget this is a thread about TOYOTA, not Ford



I like the FJ, I was making convo if Ford would bring back its Bronco in a response to the retro Toyota. I didnt mean for everyone to frantically google search Ford's sales from last year.



And sports cars are one of the only segments of the market that remain stable, changing little from year to year. They just dont make alot of money, SUVs make alot of money.

Il RX8 lI 03-02-2005 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Mar 2 2005, 05:53 AM
you all seem to forget this is a thread about TOYOTA, not Ford



I like the FJ, I was making convo if Ford would bring back its Bronco in a response to the retro Toyota. I didnt mean for everyone to frantically google search Ford's sales from last year.



And sports cars are one of the only segments of the market that remain stable, changing little from year to year. They just dont make alot of money, SUVs make alot of money.


I think I hear someone typing away about to argue your small point about sports car sells. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

93 R1 03-02-2005 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Mar 1 2005, 04:57 PM
That bronco is wicked.




Yeah

Feds 03-02-2005 03:34 PM

Having seen both in person, the Bronco concept looks really good. It has a real presence. The FJ concept, on the other hand, looks like a pile of puke on 4 wheels.

Sinful7 03-02-2005 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Feds' date='Mar 2 2005, 02:34 PM
Having seen both in person, the Bronco concept looks really good. It has a real presence. The FJ concept, on the other hand, looks like a pile of puke on 4 wheels.


haha!


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