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03-10-2009, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxt' post='918135' date='Mar 10 2009, 07:57 PM
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After being in your much warmer country for days, I think the crux of the problem down there , is you guys no longer produce anything that you can export, nor put to use domestically, the last bastion was automobiles, but that game is done. You could try exporting houses now...
Everything I saw in use down there was imported from somewhere else and the US doesnt have enough raw materials domestically to export to the countries that produce all the US's goods to help balance the trade deficit.. Thats really the only thing thats saving ours asses in Canada, is the vast raw materials, and low internal demand.
After being in your much warmer country for days, I think the crux of the problem down there , is you guys no longer produce anything that you can export, nor put to use domestically, the last bastion was automobiles, but that game is done. You could try exporting houses now...
Everything I saw in use down there was imported from somewhere else and the US doesnt have enough raw materials domestically to export to the countries that produce all the US's goods to help balance the trade deficit.. Thats really the only thing thats saving ours asses in Canada, is the vast raw materials, and low internal demand.
gee wonder why i said back out of the WTO and nafta????
03-10-2009, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by phinsup' post='918140' date='Mar 10 2009, 05:24 PM
gee wonder why i said back out of the WTO and nafta????
03-10-2009, 09:58 PM
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Well for starters we are your largest oil importers, softwoods, food, most our natural gas flows that way, not to mention all the petrochemical residuals. Most of the Uranium produced in Saskatchewan, (Canada is the worlds biggest exporter of Uranium) goes south.
The US is not totally out of resources , but the cost to extract them and refine them yourselves at this point would put your product out contention price wise, and its debatable whether or not there is enough left there to bother with extraction infrastructure. The US has something like a 500 year supply of coal, but its pretty much useless at this point, given the hate for such dirty forms of energy at this point.
If the US had enough internally sustainable resources left, it would be using them instead of fighting over other peoples resources.
The US is not totally out of resources , but the cost to extract them and refine them yourselves at this point would put your product out contention price wise, and its debatable whether or not there is enough left there to bother with extraction infrastructure. The US has something like a 500 year supply of coal, but its pretty much useless at this point, given the hate for such dirty forms of energy at this point.
If the US had enough internally sustainable resources left, it would be using them instead of fighting over other peoples resources.
03-10-2009, 10:10 PM
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We started taking your wood because it was cheaper, in fact many of the mills in washington and oregon that had shutdown due to the cheap canadian lumber have reopened. We also have some of the largest natural gas deposits in the world, we just prefer to use others and hoard ours, yes we also have some of the largest coal deposits in the world. The reality of it is, we import your resources not because we have ran out of them, but because they are cheaper then mining or harvesting our own. Plain and simple.
Mining and harvesting and updating our machinery to do so would also provide us with one of other things we desperately need..... jobs.
On to oil, we import oil from countries right now that we are not entered into a free trade agreement with. We want it, they want to sell it my guess is canada and the US will be more then happy to enter into an agreement regarding the import of oil, it seems that oil is almost always the exception to every rule doesn't it?
That's a much simpler question to answer then you might think. What could possibly drive us to use the rest of the worlds oil resources before we use our own?
Rest assured Max even without NAFTA we will find a way to relieve you of your pesky natural resources!
Mining and harvesting and updating our machinery to do so would also provide us with one of other things we desperately need..... jobs.
On to oil, we import oil from countries right now that we are not entered into a free trade agreement with. We want it, they want to sell it my guess is canada and the US will be more then happy to enter into an agreement regarding the import of oil, it seems that oil is almost always the exception to every rule doesn't it?
If the US had enough internally sustainable resources left, it would be using them instead of fighting over other peoples resources.
That's a much simpler question to answer then you might think. What could possibly drive us to use the rest of the worlds oil resources before we use our own?
Rest assured Max even without NAFTA we will find a way to relieve you of your pesky natural resources!
03-10-2009, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by defprun' post='918152' date='Mar 10 2009, 11:11 PM
Never mind ecologist and naturalists who'd peak of you clearcut some of bambi's grazing ground for a silly little mine.
Like I said they are clear cutting as we speak in washington and oregon as the cost of canadian lumber became more expensive it became economically feasible to being cutting and milling our own trees.
03-10-2009, 10:34 PM
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Don't get me wrong I like you canadian folk, after all you invented the fathometer and foghorn, it's those bastards to the south with their poor craftsmanship and limited natural resources that really bother me