Piston Engines.
08-16-2003, 01:41 AM
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As some of you may know i'm searching for a Prelude now as a daily driver. I figured that it might be smart to go over to the Honda-Tech forums and read up a bit to learn about them and their engines so i know what i'm getting into. After reading topics for about 30 minutes i felt as if someone had taken a crap on my brain. Everything about those engines are so much more complicated than any engine needs to be especially when compared to a rotary. You wanna make your car faster? You can go forced induction, a decent kit will put you back 3 grand maybe 2 if you put it together yourself. Then if you even wanna run any boost you have to replace internals. Pistons, rods, resleeve the block, cams, a whole ******* valvetrain. Bam! you just spent another 3 grand on your FI setup. Ohnos my bearings are bad, my valves are bent, i have rod knock! Boo ******* hoo. If your car didnt have so much useless crap that wouldnt happen. Variable valve timing indeed. Any SOHC VTEC on a honda is a joke. It isnt tuned for performance and barely efficiency. You have VTEC for about 1000 rpm before your car hits redline. Hell that isnt even gonna help you get on the highway.
On top of that there are so many debates in the Honda world on what brands are better. What headers give more gain. What intakes give more gain. Exhaust, this and that. Noone can agree on anything. At least 50% of the topics on the Honda-Tech forum are arguements on different cams or this or that. Over here at nopistons everyone just about knows that RB just about the best bolt on exhaust you can pickup. Headers, RB is good for that too. Our products are more personalized due to the rarity of our cars and therefore it seems like we manage to avoid some of that money saving crap taht goes on especially in the Honda world. As i read SCC or other import magazines I see ads for Honda this and Honda that and have to really wonder if those parts have any quality or decent production testing behind them at all. And when someone does come along and actually put together something decent the price is through the roof because they arent a major manufacturer and had to develop the stuff themselves.
When it comes down to it rotaries and the whole rotary world, everything about it, seems to be simple and down to the point; fast, uncomplicated, lightweight. However it has that uniqueness of not being a piston engine and performance to ward off the illusion of a dull gimmick. 3 moving parts, about as many performance part manufacturers but thats completely fine. We don't need and will not get the long list of under par "performance" tuners that other cars get. Why? Simple put rotary natural selection. Those who don't understand and respect it lose their cars and go back to the pistons. Those who do cherish and give the rotary patience are rewarded with a truly awe inspiring and unique experience.
On top of that there are so many debates in the Honda world on what brands are better. What headers give more gain. What intakes give more gain. Exhaust, this and that. Noone can agree on anything. At least 50% of the topics on the Honda-Tech forum are arguements on different cams or this or that. Over here at nopistons everyone just about knows that RB just about the best bolt on exhaust you can pickup. Headers, RB is good for that too. Our products are more personalized due to the rarity of our cars and therefore it seems like we manage to avoid some of that money saving crap taht goes on especially in the Honda world. As i read SCC or other import magazines I see ads for Honda this and Honda that and have to really wonder if those parts have any quality or decent production testing behind them at all. And when someone does come along and actually put together something decent the price is through the roof because they arent a major manufacturer and had to develop the stuff themselves.
When it comes down to it rotaries and the whole rotary world, everything about it, seems to be simple and down to the point; fast, uncomplicated, lightweight. However it has that uniqueness of not being a piston engine and performance to ward off the illusion of a dull gimmick. 3 moving parts, about as many performance part manufacturers but thats completely fine. We don't need and will not get the long list of under par "performance" tuners that other cars get. Why? Simple put rotary natural selection. Those who don't understand and respect it lose their cars and go back to the pistons. Those who do cherish and give the rotary patience are rewarded with a truly awe inspiring and unique experience.
08-16-2003, 01:48 AM
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It's funny and ironic. People think rotaries are so complicated and confusing lol. The one sentence that best explains the key to understanding a rotary?
"Forget everything you've learned about car engines and start all over again"
But what if the first engine you truly learned was a rotary?
"Forget everything you've learned about car engines and start all over again"
But what if the first engine you truly learned was a rotary?
08-16-2003, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dramon_Killer' date='Aug 16 2003, 01:48 AM
But what if the first engine you truly learned was a rotary?
08-16-2003, 03:20 AM
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im surprised that a few of you guys dont know all that much about piston engines. i went quite a ways without even knowing what a rotary was. and then i learned and it confused the **** outa me. and now im trying to learn as much about it as possible because as far as im concerned is superior in every way of pistons 