um its understeering in the video. he shoulda hit the gas, or pulled the ebrake or something. understeer = you teh fooked

LOL, look at it again a few times. The guy enters the corner, he's got the steering wheel all the way to the right and the car just keeps going straight. Corect me if I'm wrong, but isn't a car that's understeering supposed to still turn somewhat into the direction the wheels are pointed?

you cant just lock the front brakes/wheels of a car, if he was locking the brakes the car would more likely fishtail then glide straight ahead.



thats overuse of power in a wet corner causing massive amounts of understeer.



ALL cars udnersteer or oversteer respectively.



kevin.

Any car can understeer - especially when you lock up the front wheels like that guy did. I would be surprised if the wheels weren't at least partially slick, which obviously is not good on a damp track - still funny when it's someone else though https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



Mark

9 times out of 10 it will be the front wheels that lock up first.



mark

yea they lockup first (by a second if not less) cause they do 70% of braking, but youll never only lock up your front brakes by themselves unless your rears are broken.

Of course the car will understeer when the brakes are locked up. This was clearly the case. If you've ever seen this car run on a dry track, you'll see that it doesn't understeer, never. Watch the Top Gear vid on this car, Clarkson says that the thing he fears the most is this car's "snap oversteer".



The track was damp, and you can see how easily he clears the other corner before getting to this one, here he obviously wanted to slow down, he got on the brakes and locked the fronts up.



Case closed, this is an F50 we're talking about. Ferrari built this car to be as close to an F1 GP car as possible, it's not gonna understeer when getting into a corner (unless you're going way to fast).

One more thing tek, you said that the fronts are gonna lock up for a second at most. If that's the case, he'd still be able to make the corner even if the track was wet. They lock up, release and he'd still be on his merry way. But, I highly doubt the F50 has ABS. In any case, he held his foot firmly on the brakes and that's why he fucked up.



If he released them slightly to let the wheels spin, he'd have slowed down and made the corner. But who knows, old people have slow reaction times.

read, read, and read again.



in a brake lockup situation the fronts of a vehicle lock up a second in advance to the rears, sometimes less, sometimes more, but when brakes lockup, all four WILL lockup.



thats what i said.



kevin.

oh and rewatch the video closely, while crashing his wheels are still turning, you can barely make it out, but it is visible.



there's no wheel lockup, the screeching is severe understeer caused by overpowering and underestimating a wet corner.



kevin