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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:51 PM
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What are the benefits to a pushrod engine?



I thought I'd ask the rotor freaks becuase I generally find them one step above the rest mechanically speaking.



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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:55 PM
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The only benefit I'm aware of is that it allows the heads to be very compact and low-profile. Hence how they get such gynormous motors under the hood of a Corvette for example. Helps with centre of gravity height. Also I suppose it must be cheaper to make otherwise GM wouldn't still be doing it.



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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 03:57 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong: pushrod set ups prevent you from using overhead valving, and limit to 2 valves / cylinder?
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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erm not exactly, they have overhead valves (as opposed to a flathead setup), and you CAN use four valves per cylinder but it is a real pain to do. You have to have another little set of pushrods going across the heads. Which is why I don't think any factory pushrod engines have had four valves per cylinder.



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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ Rotor' date='Aug 12 2003, 12:55 PM
The only benefit I'm aware of is that it allows the heads to be very compact and low-profile. Hence how they get such gynormous motors under the hood of a Corvette for example. Helps with centre of gravity height. Also I suppose it must be cheaper to make otherwise GM wouldn't still be doing it.



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thats what i was gonna say. its actually bad to have cams spinning on top of the motor, think of a gyro, that weighs 10lbs (i have no idea what a cam wieghs) x 4



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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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This is a fairly arguable point, many would claim that the engergy lost from the cam to the lifter, through the pushrod to the valve is more then any disadvantage of the having the cams overhead.



And the fact is less moving parts is less room for something to break, that's the general theory behind the overhead cam as far as I know. Not to mention the potential of multiple valve heads and cams. This is very hard to do with a pushrod engine as you would have to increase the width of an already larger block.
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Aug 12 2003, 01:50 PM
This is a fairly arguable point, many would claim that the engergy lost from the cam to the lifter, through the pushrod to the valve is more then any disadvantage of the having the cams overhead.



And the fact is less moving parts is less room for something to break, that's the general theory behind the overhead cam as far as I know. Not to mention the potential of multiple valve heads and cams. This is very hard to do with a pushrod engine as you would have to increase the width of an already larger block.
well we're both right. in a packaging sense pushrods are great, but you can make more efficent power with overhead cams and valves.



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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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simplicity!
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Aug 12 2003, 02:12 PM
[quote name='phinsup' date='Aug 12 2003, 01:50 PM'] This is a fairly arguable point, many would claim that the engergy lost from the cam to the lifter, through the pushrod to the valve is more then any disadvantage of the having the cams overhead.



And the fact is less moving parts is less room for something to break, that's the general theory behind the overhead cam as far as I know. Not to mention the potential of multiple valve heads and cams. This is very hard to do with a pushrod engine as you would have to increase the width of an already larger block.
well we're both right. in a packaging sense pushrods are great, but you can make more efficent power with overhead cams and valves.



mike [/quote]

well all pushrod engines are overhead valve.

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