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Ok here we go, I solve a lot of my own problems but this one I can't.
ok the basics. win Xp pro, netgear router, cable modem. the problem. I will be surfing the net and all of a sudden I cant view any web pages, my aim still works fine, and so does NOPISTONS forum, but any and every other web site will not load. I get the "cannot display page" ****. If I go into my network connections and click repair. It tells me "cannot flush ARP cache" It's doing it right now, this is the only site I can access. If I walk away for 10 min it's fine again, I don't need to reboot, reset router or modem. It just starts working again. Sometimes it will happen every few hours, sometimes every few days?? ANY IDEAS?????? |
you might want to update your router firmware is you havent done so....
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terrorists.
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Originally Posted by winger' date='Feb 27 2003, 03:51 PM
you might want to update your router firmware is you havent done so....
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you're not alone - I get that at home on my XP machine, using a LinkSys router and a cable modem. I always assumed it was the modem...
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Describe your software setup, as in how your connection is setup through Internet Explorer. I might be able to help you then.
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Originally Posted by Sinful7' date='Feb 27 2003, 04:48 PM
you're not alone - I get that at home on my XP machine, using a LinkSys router and a cable modem. I always assumed it was the modem...
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connection 2 is my PC, connection 1 is a usb adaptor to another computer, and the bridge is what XP made on it's own when I installed XP.
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I had this problem with win98 or win95 (forgot which). I couldn't figure it out either (I'm pretty ignorant about this stuff). It didn't go away until I reformatted the harddrive and reinstalled windows. I figured it was a virus or something.
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Originally Posted by turbovr6' date='Feb 27 2003, 12:25 PM
Ok here we go, I solve a lot of my own problems but this one I can't.
ok the basics. win Xp pro, netgear router, cable modem. the problem. I will be surfing the net and all of a sudden I cant view any web pages, my aim still works fine, and so does NOPISTONS forum, but any and every other web site will not load. I get the "cannot display page" ****. If I go into my network connections and click repair. It tells me "cannot flush ARP cache" It's doing it right now, this is the only site I can access. If I walk away for 10 min it's fine again, I don't need to reboot, reset router or modem. It just starts working again. Sometimes it will happen every few hours, sometimes every few days?? ANY IDEAS?????? Sounds too me like your ISP, the reason that Nopistons.com works is because your system has already resolved the hostname to the ip, AIM doesn't use namerservers. Sounds to me like their name servers are either constantly going down and being rebooted or they just suck. |
yeah I think you may be right, I know it's not my pc, becouse my laptop with the wireless connectoion goes down too.
It's just weird how nopistons allways works. scott owns the internet lol |
Yeah, Phinsup is right. I can't think of any other reason why something like that would happen. Call them and get some free service. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif
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the problem with calling is they won't help me cuz have a router. under the TOS you cant share your connection, unless you pay an additional $25/mo. it's so lame, I think they did it just so they won't have to deal with problems like mine.
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turbovr6: if it's optimum online they don't let you share without buying a modem AND paying extra connection fees. An extra modem alone is a nice kick in the wallet nevermind the extra $25 a month.
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Have you talked to Netgear about it? Does anyone else with that ISP have the same problem?
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i think its cause of your phoneline network thingy
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if you have a firewire port, disable it. XP sometimes thinks its a network port and tries to pass packets through it.
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Originally Posted by cymfc3s' date='Feb 27 2003, 08:33 PM
if you have a firewire port, disable it. XP sometimes thinks its a network port and tries to pass packets through it.
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Posted on Feb 27 2003, 08:37 PM Half Man Half Amazing Group: Moderator Posts: 2565 Member No.: 277 Joined: 20-November 01 Location: North Jerzey Status: Offline QUOTE (cymfc3s @ Feb 27 2003, 08:33 PM) if you have a firewire port, disable it. XP sometimes thinks its a network port and tries to pass packets through it. yeah I had that problem when I first installed XP. It's disabled. I think I'm going to disconnect everything except the 1 cable from modem to NIC card in my main computer, leave it like that for a week and see what happens. This way I'll know 100% if it's the ISP or something on my end -------------------- http://www.turbovr6.net 1993 RX-7 lot's o' goodies 1987 Mazda b2200 280,000 miles and still going!!! 1987 Olds Cutty Supreme Straight up OG Pimpin' ain't easy Not trying to start crap but my Cisco (as in the networking company) teacher says NIC card and RAM memory constantly and it drives me insane. Utilize the acronym. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif Hehe. |
I hope you get it figured out.
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Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' date='Feb 28 2003, 11:10 AM
Not trying to start crap but my Cisco (as in the networking company) teacher says NIC card and RAM memory constantly and it drives me insane. Utilize the acronym. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif
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I think I could help but it would take sometime and I'd have to rework your entire network setup and LAN connection.
In short, you'd have to first delete everything except your LAN Ethernet port. Than install a PPPoE protocol, than route everything (Your network) through the Ethernet port. Mine works perfectly that way. |
I have optimum online. That happened to me once. I dunno, its been OK the past week. No network for me BTW, yet.
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drifter Posted on Feb 27 2003, 10:33 PM me+rx7+corner=sideways Group: Supporter Posts: 591 Member No.: 4222 Joined: 12-December 02 Location: Perth, Western Australia Status: Offline QUOTE (Dysfnctnl85 @ Feb 28 2003, 11:10 AM) Not trying to start crap but my Cisco (as in the networking company) teacher says NIC card and RAM memory constantly and it drives me insane. Utilize the acronym. Hehe. You mean like an atm machine? -------------------- Only an Eskimo would blow a seal... Are you an Eskimo!?! Project Genesis Genius, pure genius. What are you, some type of goy benius? Hehe. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png |
Next time it happens why don't you open up a command prompt and try resolve some hostnames directly to try and see if your dns is the issue?
You can also try pinging the DNS servers directly when it happens, you just have to look in the network settings to figure out the address(es) of them. If they're unreachable when it happens phinshup is right. You would also want to ping other things like your gateway for instance to see if the packets are stopping before even getting out past your network (but you say AIM and nopistons still work so thats probably not the case.) |
that always happenens here with my Windows XP(lode) on Linksys Router with Time Warner Cable..
My culprit is that damned software Firewall proffie called Zone Alarm. It gets fixed with me shutting it down, and restarting it. |
Are you sure that your cache size isnt set terribly low? Or that your sercurtiy is set to high?
Go into the tools on your browser >internet options>privacy and set the bar down in the middle. If it's to high it wont allow you to view web pages that use cookies. I understand that nopistons does but, give it a try. |
OK my cable is out right now. No web, no AIM no nothin. Luckily my parents havent shut off the dial up yet. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png Anyway, I have an IP sniffer and was snoopin around. Normally there is a lot of TCP packets and some ARP. While its down tho I get all ARP packets and thats it. Is this a symptom of anything specific?
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Yeah, ARP is Address Resolution Protocol. It's a protocol that's used to determine the IP address of something if the MAC address is known.
Do you have a network? If so, it sounds like another computer is sending the ARP packets to your computer in order to match an IP to a network address. ARP packets are broadcast packets, meaning that all the computers on the network would receive them and try to find a matching IP address. But it seems to be failing if you keep getting them over and over again. Umm, does that help any? I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. *By the way, the statement in your sig is awesome* |
Yeah, I dont know too much about computers. I do know that we don't have a home network. And I know I'm getting way more ARP's then normal, there coming from cisco I think ( cisco is the source). Other than that I dunno.
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Yeah I'm taking a Cisco course at my coughhighschoolcough. So the packet must be coming from a Cisco router of somesort. I'm pretty sure ARP spoofing is a tool commonly used by script kiddies and the like. Do you have a firewall?
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I don't really have much to add except that I agree with Scott's idea that your ISP's DNS servers are going up and down...
I was having similar problems for a while and they went away when I set my router as a higher priority DNS server in my networking config, my Dlink router acts as a DNS cache, I have 4 DNS servers set up in my networking config... 1st one is my local DNS server for my network at home (have test machines for work), then my router address, and then the DNS servers provided by my ISP, haven't had any problems since then, but you never know, they could've fixed whatever was wrong since then... hope you track it down...that crap sucks |
Jay -
doesyour new router release the IP address correctly on a timed basis? OO isn't very friendly to people to hog IP address space w/o paying for it. Your ARP cache is going down because they're dropping your DNS entries from their DHCP host ACL. I know, it used to happen to me, and once I started releasing my IPs every night, it was fine. |
OK guys thanks for all the help, there is only one problem, I don't understand all the technical mumbo jumbo spit out at me. LOL I'm not schooled on all this crap, I teach myself as I go along, so If we can put this stuff into layman's terms, maybe I can fix it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif
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Originally Posted by works2r' date='Mar 2 2003, 10:54 AM
Jay -
doesyour new router release the IP address correctly on a timed basis? OO isn't very friendly to people to hog IP address space w/o paying for it. Your ARP cache is going down because they're dropping your DNS entries from their DHCP host ACL. I know, it used to happen to me, and once I started releasing my IPs every night, it was fine. What I don't understand is how the ISP discriminates. I can understand if you weren't using a router/switch/hub, can anyone explain that? |
Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' date='Mar 2 2003, 05:42 PM
[quote name='works2r' date='Mar 2 2003, 10:54 AM']Jay -
doesyour new router release the IP address correctly on a timed basis? OO isn't very friendly to people to hog IP address space w/o paying for it. Your ARP cache is going down because they're dropping your DNS entries from their DHCP host ACL. I know, it used to happen to me, and once I started releasing my IPs every night, it was fine. What I don't understand is how the ISP discriminates. I can understand if you weren't using a router/switch/hub, can anyone explain that? [/quote] I'm a hired gun of all sorts in I/T. Im a problem eliminator https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png and Jay - read your manual on your netgear router, there should be a setting or configuration menu that tells you about how to pick up your cable/dsl connection setup, and then in it, there should be a release time or something of that nature, and just set it for like 24 hours (its probably in seconds or milliseconds.. if so, just remember 1s = 1000ms, and do the conversion from there https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR ) if you still have problems, ring me, I'll see what I can do, buddy. |
Originally Posted by Dysfnctnl85' date='Mar 2 2003, 05:42 PM
[quote name='works2r' date='Mar 2 2003, 10:54 AM']Jay -
doesyour new router release the IP address correctly on a timed basis? OO isn't very friendly to people to hog IP address space w/o paying for it. Your ARP cache is going down because they're dropping your DNS entries from their DHCP host ACL. I know, it used to happen to me, and once I started releasing my IPs every night, it was fine. What I don't understand is how the ISP discriminates. I can understand if you weren't using a router/switch/hub, can anyone explain that? [/quote] w/r/t how the ISP discriminates, its easy. All you have to do is set an ACL based on Leased time for DHCP IP, and no longer allow ARP requests to syn/ack, fin/ack when they are greater than max leased time. Its great for providers who are trying to stop all the jackasses who are trying to maintain a FTP site with pseudo business type uptime on their network without paying.. sucks for all of us who are just regular users tryin to deal with non-release. *shrug* ah well, c'est la vie. |
Originally Posted by works2r' date='Mar 2 2003, 05:59 PM
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w/r/t how the ISP discriminates, its easy. All you have to do is set an ACL based on Leased time for DHCP IP, and no longer allow ARP requests to syn/ack, fin/ack when they are greater than max leased time. Its great for providers who are trying to stop all the jackasses who are trying to maintain a FTP site with pseudo business type uptime on their network without paying.. sucks for all of us who are just regular users tryin to deal with non-release. *shrug* ah well, c'est la vie. |
...Interesting. I see now.
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Originally Posted by turbovr6' date='Mar 2 2003, 11:29 PM
[quote name='works2r' date='Mar 2 2003, 05:59 PM'] [
w/r/t how the ISP discriminates, its easy. All you have to do is set an ACL based on Leased time for DHCP IP, and no longer allow ARP requests to syn/ack, fin/ack when they are greater than max leased time. Its great for providers who are trying to stop all the jackasses who are trying to maintain a FTP site with pseudo business type uptime on their network without paying.. sucks for all of us who are just regular users tryin to deal with non-release. *shrug* ah well, c'est la vie. did it work for you?? |
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