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Baldy 06-23-2003 09:50 AM


Okay,



I have one math problem left on my quiz that I can't figure out.



The sum of three consecutive odd integers is the same as the smallest of these integers. Find the smallest of these integers and find the greatest of these integers.





__________Smallest ___________Greatest






it doesn't make sense to me, because how can you add numbers to a smaller number, and get the smaller number for your answer?

TyresmokinRx7 06-23-2003 10:04 AM

What the hell is an integers. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

Baldy 06-23-2003 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by TyresmokinRx7' date='Jun 23 2003, 11:04 AM

an integer is a whole number, I think. Like, no decimals or fractions, or imaginary numbers.

rfreeman27 06-23-2003 10:16 AM

negative

Baldy 06-23-2003 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by rfreeman27' date='Jun 23 2003, 11:16 AM
negative

yeah, I've thought of that, but it still doesn't seem like it could work https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif



I think they may have screwed up writing the problem or something...unless someone has an answer that I can't seem to find

FrestyleFC3S 06-23-2003 10:47 AM

easy



-3 -1 1



-3 + -1 = -4



-4 + 1 = -3






The sum of three consecutive odd integers is the same as the smallest of these integers. Find the smallest of these integers and find the greatest of these integers.





-3 Smallest 1 Greatest

ROTARYROCKET7 06-23-2003 11:00 AM

AN interger is non negative because it lies in the set of real numbers. If you go into negative numbers with intergers you are now entering the set of imaginary numbers. Those problems are brain teasers and the way to solve it by trial and error using odd and even numbers. I just failed my math test for Differential Equations.



SOlve this problem:



x^2 means x squared okay..

y' means first derivative.. '' means second and so on

e= eulers equation = 2.7

ln= natural log

cos t^2 + sin t^2 =1 ( identity)

cot = cotangent

sec= secant



IIGht



Find a Particular Solution for



y'' + 4y= 3 csc t ( csc is the cosecant so its 1/sin (t) )



SO the general solution is yc(t) = C1 cos 2t + C2 sin2t



The general solution is off this form because the discriminat b2-4ac ( part of the quadratic equation of the form -b +- (b2-4ac)^(1/2) / 2(a) ). is less than 0. so then the general equation is y= e ^ lambda (t) ( c1 cos u(t) + c2 sin u(t) ) and the discrimant therfore gives us lambda = 0 so e raised to the zero is 1 and then we get C1 cos 2t + C2 sin2t.





Find the coefficiants c1 and c2 byusing variation of parameters where the first condition that needs to be satisfied is



1) v1'y1 + v2'y2= 0

2) v1'y1' + v2'y2' = csc (t) by using trigonometric substituition. Engineers of NP.com gimme this answer!







The answer is y= 3 sint + 3/2 ln | csc t - cot t|sin2t + c1 cos2t + c2 sin2t

FrestyleFC3S 06-23-2003 11:04 AM

rigggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhttt





but an integer is still negative, unless they say a real number...then its not negative

Leetheslacker 06-23-2003 11:05 AM

math = teh suxx0rz

FrestyleFC3S 06-23-2003 11:05 AM


integer







<mathematics> (Or "whole number") One of the finite numbers

in the infinite set



..., -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, ...

TyresmokinRx7 06-23-2003 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by ROTARYROCKET7' date='Jun 23 2003, 08:00 AM
AN interger is non negative because it lies in the set of real numbers. If you go into negative numbers with intergers you are now entering the set of imaginary numbers. Those problems are brain teasers and the way to solve it by trial and error using odd and even numbers. I just failed my math test for Differential Equations.



SOlve this problem:



x^2 means x squared okay..

y' means first derivative.. '' means second and so on

e= eulers equation = 2.7

ln= natural log

cos t^2 + sin t^2 =1 ( identity)

cot = cotangent

sec= secant



IIGht



Find a Particular Solution for



y'' + 4y= 3 csc t ( csc is the cosecant so its 1/sin (t) )



SO the general solution is yc(t) = C1 cos 2t + C2 sin2t



The general solution is off this form because the discriminat b2-4ac ( part of the quadratic equation of the form -b +- (b2-4ac)^(1/2) / 2(a) ). is less than 0. so then the general equation is y= e ^ lambda (t) ( c1 cos u(t) + c2 sin u(t) ) and the discrimant therfore gives us lambda = 0 so e raised to the zero is 1 and then we get C1 cos 2t + C2 sin2t.





Find the coefficiants c1 and c2 byusing variation of parameters where the first condition that needs to be satisfied is



1) v1'y1 + v2'y2= 0

2) v1'y1' + v2'y2' = csc (t) by using trigonometric substituition. Engineers of NP.com gimme this answer!







The answer is y= 3 sint + 3/2 ln | csc t - cot t|sin2t + c1 cos2t + c2 sin2t

Man that **** rocks...... What's he saying? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif



The only reason I would find that intresting, is if it made my 7 go faster.

I supose, were all different https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

j9fd3s 06-23-2003 11:17 AM

i feel like locking this thread, math = the not gooder



mike

djgiantrobot 06-23-2003 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by ROTARYROCKET7' date='Jun 23 2003, 08:00 AM
AN interger is non negative because it lies in the set of real numbers. If you go into negative numbers with intergers you are now entering the set of imaginary numbers. Those problems are brain teasers and the way to solve it by trial and error using odd and even numbers. I just failed my math test for Differential Equations.



SOlve this problem:



x^2 means x squared okay..

y' means first derivative.. '' means second and so on

e= eulers equation = 2.7

ln= natural log

cos t^2 + sin t^2 =1 ( identity)

cot = cotangent

sec= secant



IIGht



Find a Particular Solution for



y'' + 4y= 3 csc t ( csc is the cosecant so its 1/sin (t) )



SO the general solution is yc(t) = C1 cos 2t + C2 sin2t



The general solution is off this form because the discriminat b2-4ac ( part of the quadratic equation of the form -b +- (b2-4ac)^(1/2) / 2(a) ). is less than 0. so then the general equation is y= e ^ lambda (t) ( c1 cos u(t) + c2 sin u(t) ) and the discrimant therfore gives us lambda = 0 so e raised to the zero is 1 and then we get C1 cos 2t + C2 sin2t.





Find the coefficiants c1 and c2 byusing variation of parameters where the first condition that needs to be satisfied is



1) v1'y1 + v2'y2= 0

2) v1'y1' + v2'y2' = csc (t) by using trigonometric substituition. Engineers of NP.com gimme this answer!







The answer is y= 3 sint + 3/2 ln | csc t - cot t|sin2t + c1 cos2t + c2 sin2t

about a year ago i would have actually tried to help you with that, you'd be shocked how quick you'll loose all that once you are out of school. oh yeah, someone hire me.

Leetheslacker 06-23-2003 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by djgiantrobot' date='Jun 23 2003, 12:21 PM
[quote name='ROTARYROCKET7' date='Jun 23 2003, 08:00 AM'] AN interger is non negative because it lies in the set of real numbers. If you go into negative numbers with intergers you are now entering the set of imaginary numbers. Those problems are brain teasers and the way to solve it by trial and error using odd and even numbers. I just failed my math test for Differential Equations.



SOlve this problem:



x^2 means x squared okay..

y' means first derivative.. '' means second and so on

e= eulers equation = 2.7

ln= natural log

cos t^2 + sin t^2 =1 ( identity)

cot = cotangent

sec= secant



IIGht



Find a Particular Solution for



y'' + 4y= 3 csc t ( csc is the cosecant so its 1/sin (t) )



SO the general solution is yc(t) = C1 cos 2t + C2 sin2t



The general solution is off this form because the discriminat b2-4ac ( part of the quadratic equation of the form -b +- (b2-4ac)^(1/2) / 2(a) ). is less than 0. so then the general equation is y= e ^ lambda (t) ( c1 cos u(t) + c2 sin u(t) ) and the discrimant therfore gives us lambda = 0 so e raised to the zero is 1 and then we get C1 cos 2t + C2 sin2t.





Find the coefficiants c1 and c2 byusing variation of parameters where the first condition that needs to be satisfied is



1) v1'y1 + v2'y2= 0

2) v1'y1' + v2'y2' = csc (t) by using trigonometric substituition. Engineers of NP.com gimme this answer!







The answer is y= 3 sint + 3/2 ln | csc t - cot t|sin2t + c1 cos2t + c2 sin2t

about a year ago i would have actually tried to help you with that, you'd be shocked how quick you'll loose all that once you are out of school. oh yeah, someone hire me. [/quote]

School ended like a week or two ago or soemthing, i couldnt tell you a damn thing about algebra now..





https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

TyresmokinRx7 06-23-2003 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by djgiantrobot' date='Jun 23 2003, 08:21 AM
About a year ago i would have actually tried to help you with that, you'd be shocked how quick you'll loose all that once you are out of school. oh yeah, someone hire me.

Hire you to do what? What do you want to do.

Baldy 06-23-2003 11:44 AM

I believe the answer is -3, -1, and 1. Thanks!



(someone else also came up with this answer, so 2 alike answers are good enough for me!)

Joe Flo 06-23-2003 12:32 PM

The orginal problem is impossible to solve with only WHOLE numbers. Integers include all REAL numbers, Their NEGATIVES, and zeros.





Oh and RotaryRocket7 is wrong about Imaginary numbers. Those are the Square root of Negative numbers.



All this **** was on my Nuke exam for the NAVY. Apperently they want people to know math while working on Nuclear reactors. Go figure https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

Baldy 06-23-2003 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Flo' date='Jun 23 2003, 01:32 PM
The orginal problem is impossible to solve with only WHOLE numbers. Integers include all REAL numbers, Their NEGATIVES, and zeros.

um, can't whole numbers be negative? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

Joe Flo 06-23-2003 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Jun 23 2003, 09:37 AM
[quote name='Joe Flo' date='Jun 23 2003, 01:32 PM'] The orginal problem is impossible to solve with only WHOLE numbers. Integers include all REAL numbers, Their NEGATIVES, and zeros.

um, can't whole numbers be negative? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif [/quote]

Yes but you know what I mean....



I forgot what all positive numbers where called. I left my brain in High School

-=RX-7 KID=- 06-23-2003 12:40 PM

I say school has been out way to long to be doin god damn math. Hell there is only like 3 fields where you will ever use that ****. I stay stick with car math



Me + RX-7 = https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

Baldy 06-23-2003 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Flo' date='Jun 23 2003, 01:39 PM
[quote name='Baldy' date='Jun 23 2003, 09:37 AM'] [quote name='Joe Flo' date='Jun 23 2003, 01:32 PM'] The orginal problem is impossible to solve with only WHOLE numbers. Integers include all REAL numbers, Their NEGATIVES, and zeros.

um, can't whole numbers be negative? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif [/quote]

Yes but you know what I mean....



I forgot what all positive numbers where called. I left my brain in High School [/quote]

I suppose I do

Baldy 06-23-2003 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by =RX-7 KID=-' date='Jun 23 2003, 01:40 PM
I say school has been out way to long to be doin god damn math. Hell there is only like 3 fields where you will ever use that ****. I stay stick with car math



Me + RX-7 = https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

it's never about learning to use. It's about learning to get ahead.



This problem was for a quiz my step mom has. She's like 39 (or somewhere around there). She's back in school to get a degree, and earn more money (not like she doesn't make enough already).



My good friend's dad works for the city, and after years of experience, is now some sort of traffic engineer. But he's hit a pay ceiling, because he never got a degree. You don't necessarily need math, all you need is that damn piece of paper.

FrestyleFC3S 06-23-2003 01:08 PM

i thought all negative numbers werent "REAL numbers"....seeing as you cannot have a negative amount of something, its just not there..



"how many turbos you have in that NA 13B?"

"negative 1?"



"how much did you steal that 3-rotor for"

"negative 3500?"

TyresmokinRx7 06-23-2003 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by =RX-7 KID=-' date='Jun 23 2003, 09:40 AM
I say school has been out way to long to be doin god damn math. Hell there is only like 3 fields where you will ever use that ****. I stay stick with car math



Me + RX-7 = https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif

I agree with that one

Baldy 06-23-2003 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by FrestyleReaction' date='Jun 23 2003, 02:08 PM
i thought all negative numbers werent "REAL numbers"....seeing as you cannot have a negative amount of something, its just not there..



"how many turbos you have in that NA 13B?"

"negative 1?"



"how much did you steal that 3-rotor for"

"negative 3500?"

you're thinking real amounts, or real distances. There's a difference, but my head now hurts too much to think (headache came on strong after lunch https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR ).



oh, and you can buy something for negative dollars. Like if I got a hat from you, and paid -$5, that means I got your hat, and you paid me $5.

TyresmokinRx7 06-23-2003 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by FrestyleReaction' date='Jun 23 2003, 10:08 AM
"how many turbos you have in that NA 13B?"

"negative 1?"



"how much did you steal that 3-rotor for"

"negative 3500?"

I like your way of thinking FrestyleReaction

j9fd3s 06-23-2003 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by FrestyleReaction' date='Jun 23 2003, 10:08 AM
"how many turbos you have in that NA 13B?"

"negative 1?"

what if i throw a turbo in the trunk?



mike

TyresmokinRx7 06-23-2003 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jun 23 2003, 11:18 AM
[quote name='FrestyleReaction' date='Jun 23 2003, 10:08 AM']

"how many turbos you have in that NA 13B?"

"negative 1?"

what if i throw a turbo in the trunk?



mike [/quote]

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif Good one.

FrestyleFC3S 06-23-2003 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jun 23 2003, 02:18 PM
[quote name='FrestyleReaction' date='Jun 23 2003, 10:08 AM']

"how many turbos you have in that NA 13B?"

"negative 1?"

what if i throw a turbo in the trunk?



mike [/quote]

then you would have a turbo in the trunk





and if you bought a hat for -5 .... then you would still be paying 0 dollars...meaning that you bought a hat for 0 dollars and i gave you 5 bucks

WishIhadaRX7 06-23-2003 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by FrestyleReaction' date='Jun 23 2003, 04:08 PM
[quote name='j9fd3s' date='Jun 23 2003, 02:18 PM'] [quote name='FrestyleReaction' date='Jun 23 2003, 10:08 AM']

"how many turbos you have in that NA 13B?"

"negative 1?"

what if i throw a turbo in the trunk?



mike [/quote]

then you would have a turbo in the trunk





and if you bought a hat for -5 .... then you would still be paying 0 dollars...meaning that you bought a hat for 0 dollars and i gave you 5 bucks [/quote]

Interpretation my friend, that's the only difference there.

FrestyleFC3S 06-23-2003 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by WishIhadaRX7' date='Jun 23 2003, 03:21 PM
[quote name='FrestyleReaction' date='Jun 23 2003, 04:08 PM'] [quote name='j9fd3s' date='Jun 23 2003, 02:18 PM'] [quote name='FrestyleReaction' date='Jun 23 2003, 10:08 AM']

"how many turbos you have in that NA 13B?"

"negative 1?"

what if i throw a turbo in the trunk?



mike [/quote]

then you would have a turbo in the trunk





and if you bought a hat for -5 .... then you would still be paying 0 dollars...meaning that you bought a hat for 0 dollars and i gave you 5 bucks [/quote]

Interpretation my friend, that's the only difference there. [/quote]

o_O i dont get it

j9fd3s 06-23-2003 05:21 PM

so you're gonna give me $5 and a hat?



mike

75 Repu 06-23-2003 05:29 PM

Oh crap! not enough brain power to drive nome now..

j9fd3s 06-23-2003 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by 75 Repu' date='Jun 23 2003, 02:29 PM
Oh crap! not enough brain power to drive nome now..

lol, you're not kidding



mike

75 Repu 06-23-2003 06:00 PM

M..u..s..t......r..e...s..t.........

Striker 06-23-2003 06:02 PM

lets get the number systems straight.

Real Number system includes: Whole numbers(all positive whole numbers), natural(postive whole's, including 0), integers(postive/negative whole numbers), rational(all fractional numbers), irrational(non terminating, non repeating numbers like pi)





i am sure of all facts except for which zero belongs too; natural or whole.

Race_87RX7 06-23-2003 06:19 PM

i didnt read every reply in here, and im not a math god or anything, but after two years of computer programming i know what an integer is for sure. Integers can be either negative or positive, but are only whole numbers.



Not integers:



1.5

150.6

67.8

.88



Integers:



1

45

345

-6

-23

-456





Integers are infinite less yer doing C++ than its only up to 32,767 (without long).



Jus my two cents, not worth much.

Joe Flo 06-23-2003 06:23 PM

I can see who passed math class and who didn't

75 Repu 06-23-2003 06:26 PM

OUCH!.. make it stop.

Race_87RX7 06-23-2003 07:47 PM

i passed math fine.


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