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j9fd3s 02-08-2009 09:41 PM

http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/env/engine/siss2.html



idle stop systems save fuel by shutting down a vehicle's engine automatically when the car is stationary and restarting it when the driver resumes driving. Especially in urban areas, drivers often let their car's engine idle at traffic lights or when stopped in traffic jams. Switching off the engine to stop it idling in these situations enhances fuel economy by about 10% under Japan's 10-15 mode tests*1.

75 Repu 02-10-2009 11:41 PM

thats all fine and dandy when the car kicks on while its fairly new and tuned.. imagine that after its like 10 years old and all outta wack.

defprun 02-11-2009 07:38 AM

It'd have the get up and go of a s5 N/A with its 6ports out of wack, exhaust out of wack, spark plugs out of wack, ect. ect.

j9fd3s 02-11-2009 11:48 AM

i think you are supposed to lease cars like that

75 Repu 02-11-2009 01:40 PM

EW LEASING..

j9fd3s 02-11-2009 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by 75 Repu' post='916461' date='Feb 11 2009, 11:40 AM
EW LEASING..



actually i betcha it would turn into the idling stop system. it just wouldnt restart...

defprun 02-11-2009 10:59 PM

lol

teknics 02-12-2009 07:01 PM

meh shut it down to one-cylinde ror something, dont stop all the motion, plus doesnt it use more gas to fire up the engine then to idle it?



kevin.

defprun 02-12-2009 11:21 PM

It doesn't for a diesel though....and somehow back in the 90's that pertained to a gas engine somehow. However the prius/insight both have systems that shut off the motor whilst sitting still..additionally so you dont hear it turning back on (for the insight at least) they send a conterracting sound through the sound system which makes starting the motor have no sound at all!

teknics 02-13-2009 12:20 PM

yea ive driven prius' that i thought i stalled because the electric motor kicks in and the car goes dead silent.



kevin.

j9fd3s 02-13-2009 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' post='916556' date='Feb 12 2009, 05:01 PM
meh shut it down to one-cylinde ror something, dont stop all the motion, plus doesnt it use more gas to fire up the engine then to idle it?



kevin.



no mazda stops the engine, and then restarts without the starter. they claim 10% fuel savings

teknics 02-14-2009 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='916618' date='Feb 13 2009, 01:59 PM
no mazda stops the engine, and then restarts without the starter. they claim 10% fuel savings



im actually going to have to read the thing you posted i guess. bastid.



kevin.

j9fd3s 02-16-2009 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' post='916674' date='Feb 14 2009, 01:14 PM
im actually going to have to read the thing you posted i guess. bastid.



kevin.



touche`

TYSON 02-16-2009 05:21 PM

My car would start with a 9ms injector prime pulse, that's about all the extra fuel used during starting, so that's what, 1/4 second worth of idle fuel?



as for reliability, that doesn't look like much more than another bunch of code in the ECU, it should be more reliable than starting with the key if you think about it. It looks like a strange bumpstart sequence.

j9fd3s 02-16-2009 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by TYSON' post='916797' date='Feb 16 2009, 03:21 PM
My car would start with a 9ms injector prime pulse, that's about all the extra fuel used during starting, so that's what, 1/4 second worth of idle fuel?



as for reliability, that doesn't look like much more than another bunch of code in the ECU, it should be more reliable than starting with the key if you think about it. It looks like a strange bumpstart sequence.



if you stop the engine in the right place, with fuel in the cylinder, firing the spark plug will get it moving enough to run (as those of use with haltechs know!)



i guess the trick was stopping the engine in the right place everytime

TYSON 02-16-2009 05:51 PM

hahaha





mine usually just made that bang noise with key-on!

cymfc3s 02-18-2009 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by teknics' post='916556' date='Feb 12 2009, 05:01 PM
meh shut it down to one-cylinde ror something, dont stop all the motion, plus doesnt it use more gas to fire up the engine then to idle it?



kevin.



Yes.



http://www.mazda.com/mazdaspirit/env/engine/siss2.html



Its pretty cool actually, neat idea. You could never do that with the RX8 though, they'd have to call it the iFlood or iPushStart


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