The power in new cars is getting crazy, Impalas with 300hp, Envoys or whatever with 400hp



these are normal everyday boring cars, makes me think twice about bothering with these clunkers pushing themselves to get 400hp in a car that will basically lose all its creature comforts and not be very pleasant to drive https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif





sigh

take em to the twisties....

lets think real life here



even so, sport SEDANS these days are handling pretty good for stock suspensions and tire/rim packages

Makes you think that the government fuel economy regulations are obviously too easy.



Chrysler replaced the aerodynamic V6 Intrepid with the 600lb heavier flying brick of the 300 + V8 and still can meet fuel economy laws. I'd rather see a decent sized diesel in there knocking out 50mpg.

damn rob... good point

im also comfortable in my manhood to admit I actually like the Scion tc, even if it doesnt have alot of power



im thinking of getting one for a shop car

scion t.c. is a really nice car. you have to see it up front to really appreciate it. does it come in a stick though, that would make it a whole lot of fun to drive. i have driven one, and it was really nice, handling was good, so were the brakes.

tyson's right, it wont last. at some point gas prices will get people to want cars with good economy.



unlike the 70's though, you can have 200hp and 30mpg in the same car

[quote name='rowtareh' date='Sep 14 2005, 12:10 AM']scion t.c. is a really nice car. you have to see it up front to really appreciate it. does it come in a stick though, that would make it a whole lot of fun to drive. i have driven one, and it was really nice, handling was good, so were the brakes.


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They are available in a manual. Its the 4 cyl and 5 speed manual or 4 speed auto out of the camry.



I thought it handled well, rides nicely, but it does feel cramped inside to me. Quiet too, not something you see much in a car of that price range.

GTOoooooooooooooooooo!