Eric Happy Meal

your hick truck looks like an suv.

teknics

hey SUV's didnt exist until 93 with the explorer.



mine is just a 2500 HD Chevy Pickup quad cab with a chair in place of a pickup bed.



its on a real frame, with a real suspension. none of this lifted car nonsense.



kevin.

teknics

here's a good pic of it again:







now thats a truck.



kevin.

defprun

where the diesel at?

defprun

oh fate rub it in, i dont have a fb anymore

Rob x-7

ahem, jeeps beat out Ford a loooooooong time ago



1946:





1963- what is considered the first "SUV"

teknics

a) you mean ******



b) those are trucks.



c) suvs are these **** ball things like ford escapes and crap. Hummer H2's etc. Things that have no business offroad and either have more bling, or more plastic then anything else.



kevin.

Rob x-7

in 1946 they called it a ******/Jeep



the 1963 was called a Jeep, that one a Wagoneer, it had IFS and a automatic transmission therefore giving it a nice ride, the birth of the SUV

teknics

IFS doesn't negate offroading ability. one of my ATV's has IRS and IFS and is an automatic.



THe ability to use the things given to go off-roading is the deciding factor, and the chances of the core group of owners of said vehicle going off-roading in said vehicle.



I mean the Benz G500 is probably the BEST off-road vehicle ever...but no one who owns one will ever take it off road. aka an suv is born.



kevin.

teknics

oh and BTW those pictures you showed... only the bottom is a truck, the top is an SUV, as designated by its manufacturer.



a wagoneer is definitely a truck, but it did begin going into the SUV direction before it became the Cherokee and Grand Cherokee.



kevin.