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RXheaven13b 04-14-2002 08:38 PM

Just the other night I was doing some work for my friends helping them out with there buisness. They asked me if I knew any performance parts that they could make for the RX-7. There goal is to make quality parts cheeper than you could buy them elswhare. The only thing I had in mind was a short through shifter. They said they would make one for my car, and it would cost about $80 for you guys to buy it directly from them. The reason I poasted is to ask all of you what you want. They are set up as a machine shop. altho they are getting in to roll cage building and other stuff too. So tell me what you're ideas are and visit there site to get a better idea of who they are. Ilp Performance



Edit: fixed your link

90N/A Rex 04-14-2002 09:04 PM

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vosko 04-14-2002 09:54 PM

sounds good to me https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

UniqueTII 04-14-2002 10:05 PM

Once I get my tranny rebuilt, I'd be interested in a short throw shifter.

1Revvin7 04-14-2002 10:12 PM

What makes a short throw shifter shorter? Is it just a shortened stock shifter or does it really shorten the throws some other way? Cuz i could cut my shifter myself....

RXheaven13b 04-14-2002 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='April 14 2002,20:12
What makes a short throw shifter shorter? Is it just a shortened stock shifter or does it really shorten the throws some other way? Cuz i could cut my shifter myself....

The shifter is built into the transmition, not like the hondas or other front whele drive cars. There is the part you grab, the part that selects the gears, and the part that pivites. The part you mess with is the gear selector, make it longer. with that in mind we also make a new tower that holdes the shifter in place. Other wise the shifter would be too long to fit in the trans. We are working on one for my car, it is going to be made out of stainless steel and tig welded togher for strainth. When we are finished that is what you would get. What we do is unlike other places, if you buy one and for some reason it don't fit right or work as expected we would do a little more R&D to make it better and swap you for a shifter that is right. I was reading about a shifter that rattles when it is installed and they had no idea how to make it stop. That's what i'm talking about, we'll fix it. I'll keep you up to date on the shifter, what i'm really looking for is more stuff we could build. We are looking to build stuff that would improve in a racing enviroment such as the scca, we don't want any (BLING BLING) parts. You won't find us making any neon light brackets or boom boom boxes. Not even a spoiler because all they do is add weight and slow the car down. We proved that the scoop on the subie 2.5 rs slowes the car down 1/10 of a sec on the track. We want to know what we can make cheaper that would make the car go fast.

ThirdGenRX7 04-15-2002 12:18 AM

how about differentials?

RXheaven13b 04-15-2002 02:02 AM


Originally Posted by ThirdGenRX7' date='April 14 2002,22:18
how about differentials?

That's something we will look into. There's a process that's called cryo treating "i think" that hardens the metal to with stand the torque that happens back there. I have a 2nd gen so what ever we build we would have to get a experemental car to work with. So phar we have taken my car apart a couple times. We are close to KD Rotary, maby they might have an extra rear section we could experment with. I'll keep you poasted!!

1Revvin7 04-15-2002 07:37 AM

sounds really good man, what about a machined cold air box?

RXheaven13b 04-15-2002 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='April 15 2002,05:37
sounds really good man, what about a machined cold air box?

If we made something like that it would be made out of sheet aluminum and welded togher. It would be a waste to make a billet part like that.

1Revvin7 04-15-2002 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by RXheaven13b' date='April 15 2002,16:27
[quote name='1Revvin7' date='April 15 2002,05:37']sounds really good man, what about a machined cold air box?

If we made something like that it would be made out of sheet aluminum and welded togher. It would be a waste to make a billet part like that.[/quote]

that sounds good too! what is billet, i always here it never known the difference.

dysthymia 04-16-2002 01:13 AM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='April 15 2002,17:50
[quote name='RXheaven13b' date='April 15 2002,16:27'][quote name='1Revvin7' date='April 15 2002,05:37']sounds really good man, what about a machined cold air box?

If we made something like that it would be made out of sheet aluminum and welded togher. It would be a waste to make a billet part like that.[/quote]

that sounds good too! what is billet, i always here it never known the difference.[/quote]

From what I understand, "billet" is a term used to describe a solid chunk of metal. Most products you see labeled as "billet" are machined from such a solid chunk. They are stronger because they have no weld, but they are more expensive because that's a lot of machining work to do.



I'm open to correction here.

Rotarydragon 04-16-2002 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by dysthymia' date='April 16 2002,01:13
[quote name='1Revvin7' date='April 15 2002,17:50'][quote name='RXheaven13b' date='April 15 2002,16:27'][quote name='1Revvin7' date='April 15 2002,05:37']sounds really good man, what about a machined cold air box?

If we made something like that it would be made out of sheet aluminum and welded togher. It would be a waste to make a billet part like that.[/quote]

that sounds good too! what is billet, i always here it never known the difference.[/quote]

From what I understand, "billet" is a term used to describe a solid chunk of metal. Most products you see labeled as "billet" are machined from such a solid chunk. They are stronger because they have no weld, but they are more expensive because that's a lot of machining work to do.



I'm open to correction here.[/quote]

Billet is machined aluminium. The various T ratings give the hardness, ie T-6, T-12 etc. I dont remember much about it otherwise.



I had a VW bug that we put a billet dash in, looked pretty cool if you like that look



Hrmm. I wonder what a Cal looked RX-7 would look like..

bigtime 04-16-2002 11:28 AM

what about a custom throttle body pipiong for my turbo conversion???!?!

RXheaven13b 04-16-2002 12:07 PM

Yes, billet is a part made out of a solid block of aluminum. As for the throtel body we would need a stock part to make one from, an than some testing to see what it dose. The first one won't work right, they never do. Some tessting will have to be done. This is great, now we are getting some good ideas!! Keep it coming.....

treceb 04-16-2002 01:55 PM

ok, what about intakes. ive looked but havent found one. if anyone knows where i could get one it would be appreciated.

intake, one piece aluminum for a side draft dellorto and/or webber carb for a 13B 6 and/or 4 port motor.

the ones ive seen use a lower intake with an adapter intake.

OKIERX-7 04-16-2002 04:00 PM

Some of my ideas. All for FC's.



Higher flow intakes for NA and turbo would be great.

I'll even donate my 89-91 NA intake for you to use if your interested. Of course I'd be expecting a version of the final product, free in return https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



Do some street porting on old housings, sell'em under $200 w/core trade



ALSO, an adapter for the turbine side of the turbo, to make NA exhausts adaptable to turbo motors would be good too. Save those of us some money when doing turbo conversions.



A solid one piece differential mount. Those things always break.



Custom FMIC throttle body intake to piping was a great idea too.



Strut bars!!!!



A tangential non-divided turbo manifold for a t04e. They ones I see are too expensive.



A manifold for a non-sequential twin turbo setup for FC's.



That's all I can think of right now.



Mike

13BAce 04-16-2002 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by OKIERX-7' date='April 16 2002,17:00
A tangential non-divided turbo manifold for a t04e. They ones I see are too expensive.

HKS makes one that retails for $300. I've seen it as low as $250 new.

RXheaven13b 04-16-2002 10:21 PM

We are just starting out the buisnes, so we have to start out small then grow. We have the tools and machines to do alot of stuff. For now the problem is time. We have a couple of original products that work great. We are currently working on a set of struts for a 2.5 rs. We think we got it, but no track testing has been done yet. There probably will be some improvements that we can make before we could start selling them. The same goes for what we ask of you, when we finish making this shifter it could be about 6 months from this date that we would be offering it to you guys. The reason for this post is to get ideas, what could we build that would be a easy task for right now that would improve the cars handling and acceleration? After we finish the struts for the subie we will start on a set for my car. Again, same thing with the shifter. After they are done we would be able to start selling them to you. Here is an idea from me. We have a pipe bender, what i was thinking was making a exaust section that would replace the cats and everything else under the car that is un needed for racing. In other words from the exaust manifold to the y pipe. Just one piece of pipe about 2.5 in diameter. My only question is what do we make it out of?? What type of metal?? What ever I get from auto zone will last me about 300 miles before it melts.

RXheaven13b 04-16-2002 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='April 15 2002,05:37
sounds really good man, what about a machined cold air box?

Just above I told you we couldn't make a billet (a part made from one piece of metal) air box. Altho I think it would be a good idea to make one. Dose any one have any desine ideas? I was up at K.D.Rotary one day and Dave was fixing one that a customer made out of tin. I have a basic idea of what it should look like.

treekiller 04-20-2002 07:22 PM

Hello everyone, Jeff from Ilp here, I'm the guy you'll most likley talk to if you have a product or sales question.



I'll try and answer your requests in the order you sent them, however I have been busy redesigning the website I rarely have time to check the bulletin boartds, feel free to email me directly with any questions I might miss or not explain throughly. jeff@ilpperformance.com



Ok let me see.

1. Shifters.



Anyone who has seen an ILP shortshifter will tell you it is a very nice peice, percision CNC machined and TIG <GTAW> welded then polished and cleaned to a near mirror finish.



anything we build will be of this quality, I like to say

"we build no comprimise racing products because, we need to use them too, and we refuse to buy, sell, produce, or distribute anything that is Crap." :-)



we currently sell the subaru short shifter with delrin bushings for $100 shipped, I can expect the RX7 model to be similar.



and IMHO. $250-$300 for a shortshifter is rediculous.



I will need commitment of say 10 members to do the first batch. of FC's @ $100 each. considering I'll use "RXheaven13b's" car for development.



2. air boxes, well, I do not see any performance gain in a mere air box, converting to a large cone type filter with a proper intake sure, in that case a heat sheild should be sufficent. now to build a proper intake from aluminimum tubing ,a cone filter, MAF sensor adapter, you are looking at between $200-$300 once again a sufficent commitment will be required to pay for the development time.



3. Cat replacement pipe, If I was going to build that for you I would reccomend mandrel bent 625 Inconel, it's resistance to heat is sufficent for the demands of a rotary based engine. 321 stainless would be slightly cheaper but It might not last as long. I would have to work up a price but considering it'll need 2 flanges and some expensive tubing you can expect

to pay over $200 these could be made to order though for the Fc's



4. intakes, see above, this can be done. we have the 87 at our disposal so anything using this intake can be taken care of.



5. diff mounts, this is not a problem, as an old FC owner myself I know how crappy the stock ones are, keep in mind a solid unit WILL without a doubt transmit siginificant vibration and noise to the passanger compartment, if this is ok I'll need a stock one to guesstamate on a price.



6. porting, sorry we are not equipped nor do we have the shop space for this opperation, I wish we were, sorry.



7. throttle body to intake piping, see 2, 4.



8. Strut bars, No problem if we can get a comitment and deposit from ~10 owners I can produce these. price will most likley be ~$150+



9. manafolds, to do these properly they will require casting or significant fabrication using inconel, the only way I could even offer these would be a one off time and materials basis. and @$60 an hour plus expensive inconel this would be to say the least a whee bit expensive.



feel free to keep this thread alive, however I am very busy and do not get a chance to surf the boards often so the best place to get my attention is jeff@ilpperformance.com



Thanks

Jeff Lloyd

Ilpperformance.com, rally car driver, seinior web lacky, sales and product development tech.


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