Anyways this kid with a 240, thinks he can get all this stuff for so cheap and modding cars is easy and cheap yadda yadda. He quotes me internet **** all the time and when he bought his car the dealer wanted 5k i told him he wouldnt get it for under 4k. He ended up getting it for 3500 and has been shoving it down my throat because he was right i was wrong and i always tell him he was wrong even though he told me the car was in mint condition when in reality it had dings and **** and he went back saying "it was mint compared to my friend's wrecked 240."



Anyways he's saying he can do a full SR20 swap for under 2k.



AzNcHiCk92 (9:47:35 PM): you can get them off ebay for 1499 plus 350 shipping

AzNcHiCk92 (9:47:54 PM): this is paxton now



that's what his gf said.



Anyways she linked me to these

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=2456401812



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=2456694330



I doubt getting a working SR20 is that cheap. And i'm still leary of buying engines off the internet like that but anyways, give me some arguements guys.

um yeah you can







if hes planning on installing it himself ... a shop....labor will add up

so you can do an sr20 swap for under 2k? I thought that sr20's ran for like 2500.

Getting the engine is the easy part, the conversion is way more than that, all the piping, and wiring will not figure into that price.

Bah, i give up.

i have more than a few friends doing or have completed the sr20 swap, none have gotten in under 4k total. your friend really thinks he can just buy the motor and thats it? only one of my friends has done the wiring harness on his own and it took him and his dad a full month to get everything exactly right. if he doesn't do the wiring harness himself it's about $220 or so to have that done, and the cheap engine for sale had a cut wiring harness. good luck with that one...





the cheap engine doesn't even have the ignitor chip!!! good luck finding someone that'll seperate that from a complete setup...



Loi

You can do it cheap...



Or you can do it right.

ok, they can buy a motor off ebay...most of those guys rip you off, that kid still has to...



make piping

wire everything

install the motor

make it run

cut stuff for the SMIC OR

buy a FMIC and cut stuff for the FMIC

die

aids



its a dierct swap...meaning itll drop right into the KA's motor mounts but they'res some stuffthat you have to do to make it work. he's not gonna be able to do the swap for anything under 4grand

If you ghetto rig everything..it can be done for 2k...you just have to find a good engine for cheap

it depends which sr20 you get, they have different hp numbers and also some motors don't come with everything....i've seen them as low as 1,000, but it all depends i guess

SCC did a budget Silvia with car and motor swap for 2K.. i think I say that everytime somebody posts a 240 thread...

dude his name is paxton, just make fun of him about that.



Call him blower or supercharger or something.

if he thought the car was mint he wont be able to do the swap for 2K. he sounds pretty dumb, and the only dumb people ive met who like cars all turned out being ricers https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

If you know the right people you can get an sr20det for very cheap.. I've had several opportunities to get them for $500 + shipping. but no way will he be able to do the swap for 2k. just to get the thing running right you need a stand alone or a totally remaped ecu

when will people learn, there no such thing as a cheap fast car...



Loi

Course when the fastest car they've been in is a Maxima does it really matter? Speed is relative and you'll think anything is fast without any basis for comparison.

i know alot of people that run on the stock sr20det ecu.

average for full swap is $6k-$7k.......



my roomate has done atleast 10 of them and my 240 is getting something lol

the swap isn't complicated if you have experiance in swapping engines, but if you don't know ****; your pretty much f'ed. But ya gotta learn somehow

You can get an S13 red top DET front clip for around $1700 at flashoptions.com

flashoptions is based out of malaysia or something and people NEVER getthere motors and when they do, they're all fucked up. ie broken everything, fuel rail, CAS, everything. its horrible NEVER order from there.

AzNcHiCk92 (3:40:00 PM): well, I was on car domain last night and I was rading this guys info on his car, his 92 240, nd it was a 12 sec car

AzNcHiCk92 (3:40:05 PM): it had the ka engine

AzNcHiCk92 (3:40:23 PM): and wasn't turboed or supercgarged

RusspOTvn (3:40:26 PM): nitrous?

AzNcHiCk92 (3:40:38 PM): I don't think so

RusspOTvn (3:40:49 PM): he had to have had one of those power adders

AzNcHiCk92 (3:40:54 PM): he spent about 3.5 grand on the engine

AzNcHiCk92 (3:41:03 PM): well

RusspOTvn (3:41:08 PM): was the car lightened at all?

AzNcHiCk92 (3:41:10 PM): if he can reace 12 secs

AzNcHiCk92 (3:41:13 PM): then I can to

AzNcHiCk92 (3:41:47 PM): I mean, you said there was no way to make it fast

RusspOTvn (3:41:49 PM): lol, and no you cant reach the 12's with your engine

AzNcHiCk92 (3:41:54 PM): I am gonna do what i can with what i got

RusspOTvn (3:42:09 PM): so you're telling me that he ran a 12 with no turbo, supercharger, or nitrous?

AzNcHiCk92 (3:42:45 PM): he prolly ran nitrous

RusspOTvn (3:43:06 PM): you just said you didnt think he ran nitrous?

AzNcHiCk92 (3:44:56 PM): I don't know

AzNcHiCk92 (3:45:08 PM): all i know is ran 12 sec without the sr20det

AzNcHiCk92 (3:45:16 PM): so thats my goal

AzNcHiCk92 (3:45:35 PM): and no super or turbo

AzNcHiCk92 (3:45:57 PM): told ya it was possible

AzNcHiCk92 (3:46:22 PM): and it will cost me 4 grand to do the swap

RusspOTvn (3:46:23 PM): ...

AzNcHiCk92 (3:46:43 PM): and about the same to keep the engine i have and run the same times with performance parts

RusspOTvn (3:47:00 PM): well

RusspOTvn (3:47:07 PM): yes you can run 12s with your engine

RusspOTvn (3:47:16 PM): but ur gonna have to run nitrous

RusspOTvn (3:47:18 PM): a fairly large shot too

RusspOTvn (3:47:26 PM): youre gonna have to build up your engine too

AzNcHiCk92 (3:47:36 PM): I will dude

RusspOTvn (3:47:39 PM): and get some sort of engine management system along with an upgraded fuel systems

RusspOTvn (3:47:40 PM): but

AzNcHiCk92 (3:47:41 PM): i gots lots of time

RusspOTvn (3:47:56 PM): in the end you'll have spent about 1-2 grand less for power that you'll only get when you press a button

RusspOTvn (3:48:10 PM): and nitrous wont help you nearly as much for autox or roadracing

RusspOTvn (3:48:11 PM): just drag

RusspOTvn (3:48:18 PM): which i dont see why you got a 240 if youre just gonna drag

AzNcHiCk92 (3:48:27 PM): well, forget nitrous then



Auto response from AzNcHiCk92 (3:48:27 PM): spark plugs



AzNcHiCk92 (3:48:35 PM): i will have to do it some other way

everyone lies on cardomain... lol.. that girl is stupid. Here, let me toss up a website really quick that says my 89 nissan pulsar running on 3 cylinders runs a 10 second 1/4 with no power adders!



Think she'll buy it?!

you're arguing with a stupid person. just make a bet they they can't do it, write up a contract.

Err that was paxton again he's always at his gf's house and on her sn.



I swear, i tell this kid what to do and the only way unless you wanna spend a crapload of money with something not even worth bothering with. And he decides to do opposite of what i tell him just so he can be freaking right or something? I don't get it. I'm getting really tired of this kid.

I used to work at a shop that did these swaps. if they want a running engine thats not gonna puke oil from the turbo, I'd love to see them do it for under $4K, let alone $2K. and a 12 sec. KA is BS, even a boosted KA, unless there is some extreme motor work done will only get you 300 HP and last maybe 10,000 miles. the person is retarded and really isn't worth your time. tell them to save their money for an FD, they will have as much money in it and have a better looking car LOL

a retard like that doesnt deserve to own a car.

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683698.gif SR20DETs.

You can have a cheap fast car...until you break something...the mazda was cheap, until my tranny blew up. Now money is no object with my car. If i cared about every penny that went into it...i would've sold it and bought a geo.

I digress, I'm planning on spending no more than 5k on a car that will do 0-60 in under 4 seconds and have 300bhp/tonne - nothing that special really, and anyone can do it.



Mark

It does happen sometimes. . but in most cases everyone wants to "Bulid a Corvette, on a Chevette budget"

As far as the cheap SR swap(and pretty much everything else)goes. .it just depends on your hook ups. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png

If you're really determined to prove him wrong, send him to zilvia.net, freshalloy.com, or some like 240 board. That damned question about cost comes up 15 times a day.



He can theoretically do it for less than $2K. Odds are against him though. It definately won't happen unless he installs it himself, as the labor runs anywhere from $850-1500 depending on some variables.



If he's convinced that he can do it under $2K then tell him to shut up and do it. Until he does anything it's just talk.