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JT-Imports 01-07-2004 08:35 PM

Granted you only have 1 hard worker and 4 jackasses. So the jackass will eventially tire out the hard worker and then you will have 5 jackasses.



So plezzz answer truthfully...



MY OUTLOOK:

I would probably award the hard worker, or promote him... I think he does HIS/HER share of work, I dont think it would be fair to unload all the work on him, even though he can handle it, this would make less work for the Jackasses, in turn I dont think its fair at all.

Promote, I think its a good option to show him and the Jackasses that hard work will pay off. This will give him a chance to have a little power to press his views and work habits to hopefully boost the others, then in turn creating team work, morale etc....

FrestyleFC3S 01-07-2004 08:37 PM

i voted promote...it makes sense....hard work always pays off...if not promote... give a raise

phinsup 01-07-2004 08:41 PM

My Dad always said you fire your best worker when the others aren't pulling their weight. That motivates the **** out of them, they figure if you fire the best worker they are next LOL

defprun 01-07-2004 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by FrestyleFC3S' date='Jan 7 2004, 06:37 PM
i voted promote...it makes sense....hard work always pays off...if not promote... give a raise

Sounds good to me! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

FrestyleFC3S 01-07-2004 08:42 PM

using that method would eliminate your work force though



you would have 4 jackasses then....instead of 1 hard worker and 4 jackasses

FrestyleFC3S 01-07-2004 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by defprun' date='Jan 7 2004, 10:42 PM

shh you will forever be the burger flippa at the Canadia McDonalds Eh

JT-Imports 01-07-2004 08:44 PM

Yeah I would fire someone, but I think it would be one of the Jackasses and it would be the same time as the promote, that way the CLICK goes off in the mind, **** here comes a change....

rfreeman27 01-07-2004 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by FrestyleFC3S' date='Jan 7 2004, 10:37 PM
i voted promote...it makes sense....hard work always pays off...if not promote... give a raise

Agreed.

phinsup 01-07-2004 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by FrestyleFC3S' date='Jan 7 2004, 06:42 PM
using that method would eliminate your work force though



you would have 4 jackasses then....instead of 1 hard worker and 4 jackasses

No, you have 4 motivates workers instead of one hardworker and 4 useless ones. Motivate the majority, not the minority.

FrestyleFC3S 01-07-2004 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Jan 7 2004, 10:48 PM
No, you have 4 motivates workers instead of one hardworker and 4 useless ones. Motivate the majority, not the minority.

dont you work solo? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

treceb 01-07-2004 08:54 PM

what kinda work, do i need to know japanese? id fly over in a day or 30...

im not a hard working person, im a slacker, but the jobs, most, get done in a timely manner. i hate overtime, but will gladly stay late with out pay if something is not finished cause of my lazyness... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png





im not in charge of anyone cause i hate being in said position, but id go somewhere along firing one and promoting. that should get the message across. however firing the good worker might work in a sorta reverse psychology kinda way. specially if all are very secure that they wont get fired or if the job is too good and wont find another as good....

phinsup 01-07-2004 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by FrestyleFC3S' date='Jan 7 2004, 06:48 PM

I don't get it.



Here's my reply...



You eat peaches don't you?



Makes about as much sense.

treceb 01-07-2004 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by FrestyleFC3S' date='Jan 7 2004, 09:48 PM

umm he has 2 jobs. im guessing this is his day job and not the import business. and even in that one hes got a partner...

JT-Imports 01-07-2004 08:59 PM

YES this is a Japanese job. Just something I see, no directly... BUT I have experienced it before.



I ask the Management why dont you do anything, well he was working hard before the new guys came here, so its the new guys turn to work hard. DUUUUUUUUHHHH



That was the most IGNORANT responce I have ever heard from a manager. I would have im introduced to the work and shite, but not make him do it all since the others were there before..... THATS JUST PLAIN DUMB! I mean like the guy never had a job before, so basically your treating him UNFAIR because he worked somewhere else and not here for his first job, thats what your saying...



DAMN what a dummy....



Just so you know the NEW guy is the hard worker.... incase you didnt pick that out of my messy paragraph...

phinsup 01-07-2004 09:00 PM

he quoted my post, i think he was talking to me lol

treceb 01-07-2004 09:00 PM

maybe u can give him a raise, tell him that his workload might increase and after the others catch on u fire one. then theyll know whats up

treceb 01-07-2004 09:02 PM

lol, hes the new one. maybe thats why hes working so hard, makes for a good impression. it worked for me.lol

Jims5543 01-07-2004 09:04 PM

I say reward the hard worker and express to him in words how much you appreciate him and his hard work. Tell him it does not go unnoticed then reward him with a promotion/raise and tthen give him a nice bonus to boot. Ask him if he thinks he could handle the additional work load caused by a jackass being fired then ask him which jackass he would like to see go.



Fire the jackass of choice then warn the other 3 that they will follow if they dont shape up. Put feelers out for 3 new employees because you just crushed their moral and will not improve. Look to replace the other 3 one at a time.



Then again I dont know if you should listen to me. I treated one of my employees like a MVP bought him a RX-7 Vert paid to have it inspected and repaired so it was at 100%. Lent him over $5K I knoew I would never get back to help him out of financial trouble. Then he started turning into a jackass taking advantage of me. He defied all logic.

treceb 01-07-2004 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Jan 7 2004, 10:00 PM
he quoted my post, i think he was talking to me lol

aha, i would have said youre jobless but im not a cruel person... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683431.gif

treceb 01-07-2004 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Jan 7 2004, 10:04 PM
Then again I dont know if you should listen to me. I treated one of my employees like a MVP bought him a RX-7 Vert paid to have it inspected and repaired so it was at 100%. Lent him over $5K I knoew I would never get back to help him out of financial trouble. Then he started turning into a jackass taking advantage of me. He defied all logic.

ahh, u got fucktarded...

JT-Imports 01-07-2004 09:07 PM

agreed.... Thats what I was thinking too...



Most people have NO idea what I do haha some do, and think im crazy....... I work a shiteload, never really get tired of it though, kind of bad since I do like some rewards for hard work sometimes too. I mean when your on the boat (navy) actually working 12-18 hr days, sometimes 24 since you have that 8 night time duty, plus 7 days a week and you do this quite often and it doesnt bother you at all.... I guess your just a worker haha......



I do pretty much the same thing now.. Just no boat involved.



I just dont think there should be any free rides. Im not blamming the ecomomy for it, but it sure as hell doesnt help. You do the work, you go home you do it again over and over. THATS STANDARD. You got someone that comes early and stays late, maybe you should talk to them and see if they are in need or what... Maybe wants to make it higher and be apart of the company.



IMHO----You can find this type of info out in 2-3 days (if your good) but usually around 6 months in most companies and then you should see something...

JT-Imports 01-07-2004 09:09 PM

Yeah I have seen, met and played with that LINE even. I learned VERY quick not to cross it. I was lucky to find this out EARLY on in life........

Srce 01-07-2004 11:00 PM

I think you should fire him. Ask me why.

defprun 01-07-2004 11:09 PM

How about this:



Fire all of them, hire oompaloompas.

Dramon_Killer 01-07-2004 11:21 PM

Man, that would suck, you try extra hard and get fired. Though at the same time the jackasses could figure, hey if the guy who worked hard got fired it was probably because he didnt fit in and keep doin what theyre doin now.

Eric Happy Meal 01-07-2004 11:22 PM

well the reverse psychology works, BUT, then it sucks MAJOR ass for the hard worker....i mean he works his ass off and then gets fired?

HotPilot 01-07-2004 11:40 PM

I would not fire anyone.. I would reward the hard worker with praise and something monetary and of course let it be known to the jackasses that you have.

If these people are on hourly wages maybe change something so that it is a performance based pay structure.. (turn the NA's into turbo's) a promotion is a good reward if the individual is capable of handling the workload in a different position, not all people handle more power in the correct fashion. Some get on a power trip. Lets take scre for instance I would fire him ask me why? lmao he used his power to change something on my personal settings... said I was his bitch

ask me why?.. I know why.. I said he was ghey looking from that dumbass pic he posted of himself... what a dick. good luck on your employee adventure..

JT-Imports 01-08-2004 12:30 AM

Yeah i know about the power trip hehe



I like to keep my nose in all the business, but try not to mircomanage. I do get a little over zealous (spelling) sometimes. Either way I think I will just talk with them and see how we can get it to work.



I couldnt fire the hard worker, not just for him, but for me. He could end up being a good part of the company.

Fluid Dynamics 01-08-2004 12:37 AM

I have been the hard worker in that situation more times than I care to remember. The times I was exploited and given more than my share of work, or not rewarded for doing much more than my wage would suggest, were times I quit in short order and found better places to work.



One time when I worked in a bigger co. with more than one superviser, the times I really helped a supervisor was when they acknowleged my talents and ability to do the **** no one else would touch. The supervisors who just turned their backs on me and pushed me back into the **** area every day were the ones I hated and wanted to beat up.



All that hard workers want is to either have the other workers be _expected_ to get a clue and make some waves themselves, or to be recognized as being a star and given compensation / recognition / perks or some other form of evening out the inequity of a situation where they can't get a raise or promotion.



Take care of your hard worker before you lose him / her. If you neglect the situation, you will soon be left wondering why he / she left you, and you will have only the chumps to aide you, and they will really suck and piss you off.

94touring 01-08-2004 01:12 AM

Anytime you have to worry about the bad employees, its time to fire them. You shouldn't have to take their incompetence home with you. Always reward the hard worker, because hard workers work hard to be rewarded. They're the first to leave to greener grass if you don't treat them good. Obviously don't fire the good worker. Then you'll just have 3 shitty workers, which are already set in their way.

j9fd3s 01-08-2004 01:06 PM

i had 8 bosses once


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