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defprun 06-02-2004 08:39 AM

burger king loses more employees than it hires, but im sure thats standard in the fast food industry!

phinsup 06-02-2004 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by banzaitoyota' date='Jun 2 2004, 06:37 AM
From my understanding, Canada is losing more Jobs to outsourcing than the US.

Yea, well it's hard to do business there with an effective tax rate of close to 50%

ColinRX7 06-02-2004 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by banzaitoyota' date='Jun 2 2004, 09:37 AM
From my understanding, Canada is losing more Jobs to outsourcing than the US.

Our company does alot of contract work in the US. Work that I believe is not suppost to be outsourced to Canada.

phinsup 06-02-2004 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by banzaitoyota' date='Jun 2 2004, 06:37 AM
From my understanding, Canada is losing more Jobs to outsourcing than the US.

Better watch it or they will get pissed and vote out the.... oh wait no they won't LOL

TYSON 06-02-2004 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by phinsup' date='Jun 2 2004, 09:45 AM
Yea, well it's hard to do business there with an effective tax rate of close to 50%

Below an income of $50,000 our taxes are lower than yours.



Our government has been working hard to make us into a third world country for a long time now. Higher education standard and lower absenteeism among workers, but they only provide incentives for companies to bring manufacturing assembly line jobs here, no technical work allowed.



Now with the high levels of automation it really doesn't matter if manufacturing is done here, Mexico or Alabama, the education level of the assembly line worker has no influence on the finished product.



It comes down to which local government offers the most tax breaks for building the factory. This is why companies like BMW and Mercedes have factories in Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas and Alabama. Cheap labour and no property taxes for incentives.

treceb 06-02-2004 09:13 AM

i think unions made america lazy....

j9fd3s 06-02-2004 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Jun 2 2004, 06:09 AM
Now with the high levels of automation it really doesn't matter if manufacturing is done here, Mexico or Alabama, the education level of the assembly line worker has no influence on the finished product.

tell that to bmw and mercedes! the mercedes ml's took a couple years to make them not fall apart, the bmw's look like somone put the paint on with a towel....

banzaitoyota 06-02-2004 09:16 AM

"It comes down to which local government offers the most tax breaks for building the factory. This is why companies like BMW and Mercedes have factories in Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas and Alabama. Cheap labour and no property taxes for incentives. "



And when the incentives expire, the company closes the plant. AKA MACK Trucks in Winnsboro SC. When that plant closed Atlantic Hitch in Denmark SC also closed. Coincidence. I think not.





The other problem is FOREIGN Companies coming in and buying small companies and assimalating them to elimanate the competion.

j9fd3s 06-02-2004 09:17 AM

one other usless employment fact; walmart is the second largest employer in the country, behind the us govt. they are non union

Rotarydragon 06-02-2004 09:22 AM

I'm not too keen on unions mostly these days it seems to be a way of getting $15 an hour for a $7 an hour job. I remember a tv show about a miller bottling plant closing down and they were watching the union and how it did things, following people etc. The union came out with tons of promises but Miller still shut down the plant because it was loosing money. They seemed to be all upset by this, how DARE they want to make a profit!?



One of the people they watched was a lady that loaded labels into a machine. That was it. Period. Nothing else, maybe move a 10 pound box once in awhile and probably some knoweldge of how the machine did what it did. She was getting paid $17 an hour do to this. Now she's out of work and finds that she has a skill set that's really worth $6 an hour or so.



I've got a friend who's on strike right now in St. John Canada. (That's New Brunswick, not Newfoundland for anyone who gives a ****) Alliant communications treats their employees like garbage so they finally unionized and are now striking. Alliant is digging in and bringing in other employees to do the work. Wonder how he's going to make his mortgage payments?



Then there was the time Catapillar fired all the striking workers and moved to non union. The expression of shock on the workers faces was quite amusing.



Anyway no I usually won't cross a picket line because it's a pain. I have done it a few times because I needed to, at one point they were trying to slow me down from getting into the hospital to work. Things would have gotten really nasty if security hadn't moved them, I don't give a **** what your problem with whomever is, you don't try to stop me from doing my job.


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