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08-01-2003, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Travisty' date='Aug 1 2003, 01:09 PM
granted this site is very right wing radical
but it does present some very valid points
http://www.godhatesfags.com/fagfacts
i grew up in vermont and moved to jersey recently after vermont passed the civil right bill.
personally i think its wrong, but to each his own and yada yada yada.
although what they are trying to do in the public school system up there is definitely wrong no argument about it.
they are pushing homosexuality on kids whether they like it or not.
you should see some of the pamphlets they are passing out in schools. its pretty much gay **** that shows how to give a good bj.
its pretty bad when you hand that to a 13 year old kid.
but it does present some very valid points
http://www.godhatesfags.com/fagfacts
i grew up in vermont and moved to jersey recently after vermont passed the civil right bill.
personally i think its wrong, but to each his own and yada yada yada.
although what they are trying to do in the public school system up there is definitely wrong no argument about it.
they are pushing homosexuality on kids whether they like it or not.
you should see some of the pamphlets they are passing out in schools. its pretty much gay **** that shows how to give a good bj.
its pretty bad when you hand that to a 13 year old kid.
08-01-2003, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Travisty' date='Aug 1 2003, 04:09 PM
although what they are trying to do in the public school system up there is definitely wrong no argument about it.
they are pushing homosexuality on kids whether they like it or not.
you should see some of the pamphlets they are passing out in schools. its pretty much gay **** that shows how to give a good bj.
its pretty bad when you hand that to a 13 year old kid.
they are pushing homosexuality on kids whether they like it or not.
you should see some of the pamphlets they are passing out in schools. its pretty much gay **** that shows how to give a good bj.
its pretty bad when you hand that to a 13 year old kid.
08-01-2003, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WishIhadaRX7' date='Aug 1 2003, 01:14 PM
[quote name='Travisty' date='Aug 1 2003, 04:09 PM'] although what they are trying to do in the public school system up there is definitely wrong no argument about it.
they are pushing homosexuality on kids whether they like it or not.
you should see some of the pamphlets they are passing out in schools. its pretty much gay **** that shows how to give a good bj.
its pretty bad when you hand that to a 13 year old kid.
they are pushing homosexuality on kids whether they like it or not.
you should see some of the pamphlets they are passing out in schools. its pretty much gay **** that shows how to give a good bj.
its pretty bad when you hand that to a 13 year old kid.
He's talking about how the media is controlling us and that the government puts things in mayonaise to track our whereabouts.
08-01-2003, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TYSON' date='Aug 1 2003, 03:12 PM
If you need the state and religion to approve your relationship you have big problems. Nobody every said it was illegal to stand up and have a wedding ceremony, they just didn't want to issue the certificate.
As long as you have no problem with it and the people you care about have no problem with it, why do you care what anyone else thinks? If you need the marriage certificate to show you love someone, how is this relationship going to last? If you ABSOLUTELY NEED a wedding to show love and devotion, don't get married, because you'll be on your 3rd marriage before you know it.
As long as you have no problem with it and the people you care about have no problem with it, why do you care what anyone else thinks? If you need the marriage certificate to show you love someone, how is this relationship going to last? If you ABSOLUTELY NEED a wedding to show love and devotion, don't get married, because you'll be on your 3rd marriage before you know it.
08-01-2003, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WishIhadaRX7' date='Aug 1 2003, 01:27 PM
Religion has caused more death and suffering than any plague or war. However, it has helped millions of people as well.
In my experience, religion is bad, but faith is good.
In my experience, religion is bad, but faith is good.
i dont consider myself religious, i'm faithful to God. i dont feel it is necessary to define one's self with a particular denomination. i personally define myself with the Bible and it's rules, not the rules that some church body has put in place for me to follow.
i think our country is being hypocritical by claiming "one nation under God" and then publically supporting homosexually by legalizing gay marraige.
08-01-2003, 03:18 PM
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This argument could go anywhere, the reality of it is, it all stems from the varying views on what marriage means. that would be the actual argument.
Some have a very "tainted" view on marriage for one reason or another.
Some have a very "tainted" view on marriage for one reason or another.
08-01-2003, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WishIhadaRX7' date='Aug 1 2003, 01:20 PM
I thought it was funny, the other day the pope was calling out to christians saying that they need not be too harsh on gay people and that their discrimination should not go to far.
I was in disbelief, where do you draw the line for ACCEPTABLE discrimination if there is such a thing?
I was in disbelief, where do you draw the line for ACCEPTABLE discrimination if there is such a thing?
i mean, hating a gay person and acting like a jerk to them fails to uphold a persons own moral guidence of "loving your neighbor as yourself". doing so would make you a hypocrite and in no better standing than the gay person that is breaking your own view of morals.
i dont feel there is anything wrong with stating that a person's lifestyle is wrong and not in good moral standing. i would not judge a person based on their morals, but if they asked what i thought, i would certainly state that i dont agree with their actions.
08-01-2003, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by UniqueTII' date='Aug 1 2003, 04:16 PM
[quote name='TYSON' date='Aug 1 2003, 03:12 PM'] If you need the state and religion to approve your relationship you have big problems. Nobody every said it was illegal to stand up and have a wedding ceremony, they just didn't want to issue the certificate.
As long as you have no problem with it and the people you care about have no problem with it, why do you care what anyone else thinks? If you need the marriage certificate to show you love someone, how is this relationship going to last? If you ABSOLUTELY NEED a wedding to show love and devotion, don't get married, because you'll be on your 3rd marriage before you know it.
As long as you have no problem with it and the people you care about have no problem with it, why do you care what anyone else thinks? If you need the marriage certificate to show you love someone, how is this relationship going to last? If you ABSOLUTELY NEED a wedding to show love and devotion, don't get married, because you'll be on your 3rd marriage before you know it.
Do you mean that gay couples should carry around their wedding certificate to show total strangers that they are married and therefore that stranger must approve of them? I don't understand your point
You're already talking about people that have lived a good portion of their lives not putting a lot of stock in what strangers think of them. What the people around them think is more important. A wedding certificate will not change Great-Granny Hildagaards opinion of your relationship.
The only difference between the wedding you mentioned earlier and what they are talking about now is the legal wedding certificate. And if that is what you need to hold a relationship together it doesn't matter if you are gay, straight or Martian, it's not going to last.
08-01-2003, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RX-7Aggie' date='Aug 1 2003, 03:25 PM
i dont feel there is anything wrong with stating that a person's lifestyle is wrong and not in good moral standing. i would not judge a person based on their morals, but if they asked what i thought, i would certainly state that i dont agree with their actions.
"To form an opinion or evaluation."
So you do judge people by their morals and decisions, although I respect you for keeping it to yourself and not trying to harm them due to your beliefs.
08-01-2003, 03:31 PM
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I'm not talking about a marriage certificate at all, nor am I talking about living your life to please strangers. My sister had her ceremony to hopefully prove how serious she was and gain/gauge the approval of our family.
I certainly don't condone behavior for the purpose of pleasing "society".
I certainly don't condone behavior for the purpose of pleasing "society".