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13BAce 09-13-2002 04:04 PM

I think they're trying to make a case AGAINST no state income tax. :P

j9fd3s 09-13-2002 04:12 PM

that is dumb. in oregon they try to trick the taxpayer into passing a sales tax, but it doesn't work.

oh hey did you notice florida is also having trouble voting again?



mike

SPOautos 09-13-2002 04:18 PM

Its prob because all the home owners in FL are pissed. Isnt the property taxes real high in FL because there is no income tax??? That means that property owners are paying for everything and non prop owners that have apt or what ever dont pay hardley any tax for anything.



If i was a property owner in FL I would be pissed cause if they went to a income tax there would be much more people to share the tax making it much cheaper.



BTW - I dont know spacifically what your talking about cause I havent heard of the fight I'm just throwing out some .02



STEPHEN

j9fd3s 09-13-2002 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by SPOautos' date='Sep 13 2002, 02:18 PM
Its prob because all the home owners in FL are pissed. Isnt the property taxes real high in FL because there is no income tax??? That means that property owners are paying for everything and non prop owners that have apt or what ever dont pay hardley any tax for anything.



If i was a property owner in FL I would be pissed cause if they went to a income tax there would be much more people to share the tax making it much cheaper.



BTW - I dont know spacifically what your talking about cause I havent heard of the fight I'm just throwing out some .02



STEPHEN

the retired people vote and they dont want to pay taxes in their income, because it might be a lot. i seem to remember somthing about that, my grandpa lived in fl



mike

Rob x-7 09-13-2002 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by SPOautos' date='Sep 13 2002, 05:18 PM
Its prob because all the home owners in FL are pissed. Isnt the property taxes real high in FL because there is no income tax??? That means that property owners are paying for everything and non prop owners that have apt or what ever dont pay hardley any tax for anything.



If i was a property owner in FL I would be pissed cause if they went to a income tax there would be much more people to share the tax making it much cheaper.



BTW - I dont know spacifically what your talking about cause I havent heard of the fight I'm just throwing out some .02



STEPHEN

I dont think those property taxes are ANYTHING like they are on Long Island.

SPOautos 09-13-2002 08:14 PM

I dont really know what the prop tax is in FL but I've heard its pretty high compared to most states since they have no income tax in FL....they have to make $ somehow. It just kinda sucks that the prop owners have to pay for everything.



What is the prob tax % in Long Island???



STEPHEN

13BAce 09-15-2002 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Sep 13 2002, 02:12 PM
that is dumb. in oregon they try to trick the taxpayer into passing a sales tax, but it doesn't work.

oh hey did you notice florida is also having trouble voting again?



mike

Yeah, that's why I posted this. They also shut down an interstate all day because some dumb hick thought she heard some guys plotting a bombing, etc.

13BAce 09-15-2002 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by SPOautos' date='Sep 13 2002, 06:14 PM
I dont really know what the prop tax is in FL but I've heard its pretty high compared to most states since they have no income tax in FL....they have to make $ somehow. It just kinda sucks that the prop owners have to pay for everything.



What is the prob tax % in Long Island???



STEPHEN

15 years ago my mom was paying about $6600 a year for a $180,000 house.

13BAce 09-15-2002 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by SPOautos' date='Sep 13 2002, 06:14 PM
I dont really know what the prop tax is in FL but I've heard its pretty high compared to most states since they have no income tax in FL....they have to make $ somehow. It just kinda sucks that the prop owners have to pay for everything.



What is the prob tax % in Long Island???



STEPHEN

The houses are supposed to be very cheap out there. So high property taxes don't hit you as hard.

13BAce 09-15-2002 02:52 PM

Damn, that state is ****** stupid.

Rotarydragon 09-15-2002 03:19 PM

Oh give it some time, the dumb ass things they do on a very regular basis in CA will get to you soon. ESPECIALLY the Bay Area.



They still have busted roads because of the earthquake some 10 years ago or more. All cause they have to make sure everything is PC and....

Bugzuki 09-15-2002 03:41 PM

If you think about it, if someone is renting a house, the person that owns that house has to pay tax on it right? If that person as any type of brain they would count that tax owed into what they figure for the rent payment, at least I would. And I am sure that they do that. That means that everybody that leaves in a house has to pay property tax.



The government just wants sales tax or some other type of tax so that they can collect more tax but it is spread out so it does not look so bad.



Washington is one of the highest taxed states - because with sales tax there is not a way to easily see exactly how much you are paying so you will more easily pay tax for other things.



Just my thoughts on the subject.

j9fd3s 09-15-2002 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Rotarydragon' date='Sep 15 2002, 01:19 PM
Oh give it some time, the dumb ass things they do on a very regular basis in CA will get to you soon. ESPECIALLY the Bay Area.



They still have busted roads because of the earthquake some 10 years ago or more. All cause they have to make sure everything is PC and....

yah, my california tax dollars go somewhere, but its nothing you can actually see.

hey ace if you want a laugh, read about the golden gate bridge, and the tolls.



mike

Jims5543 09-15-2002 07:07 PM

One good thing about the majority of Florida.



No emmisions!!



I personally like the warm weather year round.

I hate all the old people here in the winter.

The beaches are awesome. The girls are hot.

My car can be driven year round and I dont have to worry about it getting all kinds of rust.

Unless of course I lived on the beach which I dont so no prob.



I have not even heard of this tax you are talking about.



I do own a home and can say that my property tax is low compared with someplace like New York.



My house is worth about 140k my bud has a house on Long Island worth about the same.

I pay $3500 a year in property tax he pays close to $10K.

SoRRoW 09-16-2002 06:46 AM

Ok how the **** your gonna sit there and say how some place is retarded?



Shouldnt you say the government there is fucked?



We"The people of FL " Dont have much control over what the dumb asses in the government has to do or say...



About the voting thing..I personally dont give a ****..because who ever gets voted in ..alsways seem to **** up one way or another Im just glad that old **** didnt get in..



Ok about the interstate that was shut down..it wasnt a whole interstate it was a stretch we call aligator alley not the whole interstate..and if you was referring to that "hick"she was from GA not FL..





Yeah FL sucks..and we hope ignorant "Yanks"like you dont come down to the South..We love our warm weather,Clean nice beaches,Fine ass tanned girls...No salt on our roads tearing up our cars..





One of the northern peoples dream of buying a car is getting one rust free..lol



I see that your in Cali now...I hope to live inthere for a while ..give it another 6 months from now..let me see you ride around in a modded car lowered or exhast work done then ..repost seeing which state is dumber..Cali has the worse pollution and the strictest emissions..





Next time your thinking of going to spring break ..try not to decide on FL..we dont want albino yanks coming down here with them speedos on <_<

ChainSawOnSteroids 09-16-2002 07:44 AM

oh no the dirty south spoke out ahahahahaha lol https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif:LOL:https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

1988RedT2 09-16-2002 07:58 AM

Uh, Oh! Sounds like Civil War II brewing here! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

SoRRoW 09-16-2002 08:04 AM

Nahh ..North/South **** dont mean **** to me..



I live here in FL and probally wont go no where else..If you been here in FL or live in FL you probally understand what Im saying ..when I say theres no other place I rather want to be..





Every thing I like and want is here...I dont have to deal with cold weather..

yeah it gets hot down here..but thats when you go to the beaches.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



When I said yank..its just to show how ignorant he looks when he said hick...



Yeah I was raised down here..But im far from a hick..I dont talk in a country accent..or live on a farm...

ChainSawOnSteroids 09-16-2002 08:25 AM

kool everyone loves the place they live in (https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif)

Rob x-7 09-16-2002 09:26 AM

I persoanally love Florida, if not for them and thier lovely class of people, where else would they film every episode of COPS?

SoRRoW 09-16-2002 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Sep 16 2002, 10:26 AM
I persoanally love Florida, if not for them and thier lovely class of people, where else would they film every episode of COPS?

I bet when Miami Vice was out..you probally though that was the ****..and dressed like them...



What ever you want..its here..besides snow..and moutains..

Rob x-7 09-16-2002 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Sep 16 2002, 11:22 AM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Sep 16 2002, 10:26 AM']I persoanally love Florida, if not for them and thier lovely class of people, where else would they film every episode of COPS?

I bet when Miami Vice was out..you probally though that was the ****..and dressed like them...



What ever you want..its here..besides snow..and moutains..[/quote]

Just this week I had my white Members Only jacket on over my white suit with pink shirt, white penny loafers with no socks rounded out the package, and lets not forget a spash of DRAKKAR cologne, lol.

SoRRoW 09-16-2002 11:20 AM

*Miami Vice music playing in the back ground*

twinturborx7pete 09-16-2002 12:22 PM

property taxes aren't that bad here really, and we only have a 7 or 7.5% sales tax i think... but most peopl here make good money, except for the social security geezers.. u can find them working at local supermarkets bagging the groceries..

SoRRoW 09-16-2002 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by twinturborx7pete' date='Sep 16 2002, 01:22 PM
but most peopl here make good money, except for the social security geezers..





u can find them working at local supermarkets bagging the groceries..

lol...... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

13BAce 09-16-2002 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Sep 16 2002, 04:46 AM
Ok how the **** your gonna sit there and say how some place is retarded?



Shouldnt you say the government there is fucked?



We"The people of FL " Dont have much control over what the dumb asses in the government has to do or say...



About the voting thing..I personally dont give a ****..because who ever gets voted in ..alsways seem to **** up one way or another Im just glad that old **** didnt get in..



Ok about the interstate that was shut down..it wasnt a whole interstate it was a stretch we call aligator alley not the whole interstate..and if you was referring to that "hick"she was from GA not FL..





Yeah FL sucks..and we hope ignorant "Yanks"like you dont come down to the South..We love our warm weather,Clean nice beaches,Fine ass tanned girls...No salt on our roads tearing up our cars..





One of the northern peoples dream of buying a car is getting one rust free..lol



I see that your in Cali now...I hope to live inthere for a while ..give it another 6 months from now..let me see you ride around in a modded car lowered or exhast work done then ..repost seeing which state is dumber..Cali has the worse pollution and the strictest emissions..





Next time your thinking of going to spring break ..try not to decide on FL..we dont want albino yanks coming down here with them speedos on <_<

I can say whatever the hell I want. Also, my car is not my whole life. If I need to get through emmissions I get through. Cops don't give us "albinos" a hard time. :P

13BAce 09-16-2002 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Sep 16 2002, 06:04 AM
Nahh ..North/South **** dont mean **** to me..



I live here in FL and probally wont go no where else..If you been here in FL or live in FL you probally understand what Im saying ..when I say theres no other place I rather want to be..





Every thing I like and want is here...I dont have to deal with cold weather..

yeah it gets hot down here..but thats when you go to the beaches.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



When I said yank..its just to show how ignorant he looks when he said hick...



Yeah I was raised down here..But im far from a hick..I dont talk in a country accent..or live on a farm...

I don't care what you call me. I know that the woman was from GA. I lived in GA for a year, and they are hicks. Their big city, atlanta, is a stupid ghetto.

13BAce 09-16-2002 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Sep 16 2002, 08:28 AM
[quote name='SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Sep 16 2002, 11:22 AM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Sep 16 2002, 10:26 AM']I persoanally love Florida, if not for them and thier lovely class of people, where else would they film every episode of COPS?

I bet when Miami Vice was out..you probally though that was the ****..and dressed like them...



What ever you want..its here..besides snow..and moutains..[/quote]

Just this week I had my white Members Only jacket on over my white suit with pink shirt, white penny loafers with no socks rounded out the package, and lets not forget a spash of DRAKKAR cologne, lol.[/quote]

Hey, you were supposed to come over with the IROC to go out cruising. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Rob x-7 09-16-2002 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Sep 16 2002, 07:46 AM
Yeah FL sucks..and we hope ignorant "Yanks"like you dont come down to the South..We love our warm weather,Clean nice beaches,Fine ass tanned girls...No salt on our roads tearing up our cars..





One of the northern peoples dream of buying a car is getting one rust free..lol

Kind of like a Floridian getting a car that the paint and the interior isnt sun faded to death?

SoRRoW 09-16-2002 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Sep 16 2002, 04:18 PM
[quote name='SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Sep 16 2002, 07:46 AM']



Yeah FL sucks..and we hope ignorant "Yanks"like you dont come down to the South..We love our warm weather,Clean nice beaches,Fine ass tanned girls...No salt on our roads tearing up our cars..





One of the northern peoples dream of buying a car is getting one rust free..lol

Kind of like a Floridian getting a car that the paint and the interior isnt sun faded to death?[/quote]

Ok...to fix a sun faded out interior and oxidized paint...

compared to a salt rusted out under carriage..with rusted brakes..rusted engine....rusted steel lines...etc

I lived in FL since 78/ 79?

I have not owned 1 car that the insides were faded more than normal...



I have owned 1 peice of **** that was from NY and that bitch was a 87 and had more rust than the oldest FL car I ever owned which was a 69 Olds..



You go figure that...

SoRRoW 09-16-2002 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Sep 16 2002, 04:13 PM
[quote name='SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Sep 16 2002, 04:46 AM']Ok how the **** your gonna sit there and say how some place is retarded?



Shouldnt you say the government there is fucked?



We"The people of FL " Dont have much control over what the dumb asses in the government has to do or say...



About the voting thing..I personally dont give a ****..because who ever gets voted in ..alsways seem to **** up one way or another Im just glad that old **** didnt get in..



Ok about the interstate that was shut down..it wasnt a whole interstate it was a stretch we call aligator alley not the whole interstate..and if you was referring to that "hick"she was from GA not FL..





Yeah FL sucks..and we hope ignorant "Yanks"like you dont come down to the South..We love our warm weather,Clean nice beaches,Fine ass tanned girls...No salt on our roads tearing up our cars..





One of the northern peoples dream of buying a car is getting one rust free..lol



I see that your in Cali now...I hope to live inthere for a while ..give it another 6 months from now..let me see you ride around in a modded car lowered or exhast work done then ..repost seeing which state is dumber..Cali has the worse pollution and the strictest emissions..





Next time your thinking of going to spring break ..try not to decide on FL..we dont want albino yanks coming down here with them speedos on <_<

I can say whatever the hell I want. Also, my car is not my whole life. If I need to get through emmissions I get through. Cops don't give us "albinos" a hard time. :P[/quote]

<_< Ok and?...............

Rob x-7 09-16-2002 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Sep 16 2002, 05:47 PM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Sep 16 2002, 04:18 PM'][quote name='SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Sep 16 2002, 07:46 AM']



Yeah FL sucks..and we hope ignorant "Yanks"like you dont come down to the South..We love our warm weather,Clean nice beaches,Fine ass tanned girls...No salt on our roads tearing up our cars..





One of the northern peoples dream of buying a car is getting one rust free..lol

Kind of like a Floridian getting a car that the paint and the interior isnt sun faded to death?[/quote]

Ok...to fix a sun faded out interior and oxidized paint...

compared to a salt rusted out under carriage..with rusted brakes..rusted engine....rusted steel lines...etc

I lived in FL since 78/ 79?

I have not owned 1 car that the insides were faded more than normal...



I have owned 1 peice of **** that was from NY and that bitch was a 87 and had more rust than the oldest FL car I ever owned which was a 69 Olds..



You go figure that...[/quote]

NEENER NEEENER NEEENER https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/moon.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/moon.gif



your too easy to get going, lol

SoRRoW 09-16-2002 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Sep 16 2002, 06:04 PM
[quote name='SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Sep 16 2002, 05:47 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Sep 16 2002, 04:18 PM'][quote name='SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Sep 16 2002, 07:46 AM']



Yeah FL sucks..and we hope ignorant "Yanks"like you dont come down to the South..We love our warm weather,Clean nice beaches,Fine ass tanned girls...No salt on our roads tearing up our cars..





One of the northern peoples dream of buying a car is getting one rust free..lol

Kind of like a Floridian getting a car that the paint and the interior isnt sun faded to death?[/quote]

Ok...to fix a sun faded out interior and oxidized paint...

compared to a salt rusted out under carriage..with rusted brakes..rusted engine....rusted steel lines...etc

I lived in FL since 78/ 79?

I have not owned 1 car that the insides were faded more than normal...



I have owned 1 peice of **** that was from NY and that bitch was a 87 and had more rust than the oldest FL car I ever owned which was a 69 Olds..



You go figure that...[/quote]

NEENER NEEENER NEEENER https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/moon.gif https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/moon.gif



your too easy to get going, lol[/quote]

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/argue.gif <_<

SPOautos 09-16-2002 07:05 PM

Hmm, this thread turned kinda stupid, all states and cities have something wrong with them so there is no point is argueing about it.



Also, paying $3500 or what ever it was on a 140K house is actually pretty high compared to a lot of states. I'd only pay about $600 in taxes for that house but I'd make up for it with income tax which sucks.



The states always get thier money one way or another haha



STEPHEN

SPOautos 09-16-2002 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Bugzuki' date='Sep 15 2002, 09:41 PM
If you think about it, if someone is renting a house, the person that owns that house has to pay tax on it right? If that person as any type of brain they would count that tax owed into what they figure for the rent payment, at least I would. And I am sure that they do that. That means that everybody that leaves in a house has to pay property tax.

Well that sounds good in theory but it doesnt really work out like that. The reason is if you have a owner and a renter you have one tax on the property that the renter ends up paying right.....well if it was income tax instead of just one of them paying it would be both of them paying 2 seperate taxes.



That doesnt sound like much but lets take a apt complex.....you have 100 people spliting one tax for the property versus 100 peoples incomes being taxed.



STEPHEN

Rob x-7 09-16-2002 07:15 PM

House I am looking at right now is $239,000, taxes are $4800. Those taxes are considered cheap, lot is 50x125, not much land in these parts.

SPOautos 09-16-2002 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Sep 17 2002, 01:15 AM
House I am looking at right now is $239,000, taxes are $4800. Those taxes are considered cheap, lot is 50x125, not much land in these parts.

Damn, thats gotta suck!!! That adds $400 a month to your payment. You could have paid my property taxes for an entire year with just one month of yours.......I pay about $400 a year. Granted my home isnt worth $239K but still. Even if it was it would still be under $1000. It would be interesting to see how much $239K get you in Long Island. Here you could get a brand new very nice all brick 2400 sq foot house with a nice big yard about 3/4 of an acre or so. The real nice houses here go for about $100 a sq foot including the land. Whats it like there? Insane I'm sure!!!!! But it probably all works out to be = cause people make more there.



STEPHEN

Rob x-7 09-16-2002 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by SPOautos' date='Sep 16 2002, 08:23 PM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Sep 17 2002, 01:15 AM']House I am looking at right now is $239,000, taxes are $4800. Those taxes are considered cheap, lot is 50x125, not much land in these parts.

Damn, thats gotta suck!!! That adds $400 a month to your payment. You could have paid my property taxes for an entire year with just one month of yours.......I pay about $400 a year. Granted my home isnt worth $239K but still. Even if it was it would still be under $1000. It would be interesting to see how much $239K get you in Long Island. Here you could get a brand new very nice all brick 2400 sq foot house with a nice big yard about 3/4 of an acre or so. The real nice houses here go for about $100 a sq foot including the land. Whats it like there? Insane I'm sure!!!!! But it probably all works out to be = cause I'm sure people make a lot more there.



STEPHEN[/quote]

New homes the taxes are worse. This home I put a bid on is a 3 bedroom, livingroom, eat in kitchen, detatched garage,2 bathroom, livingroom of course, full basement, 1st floor has 2 bedrooms, kitchen, livingroom, 2nd floor has 1 big bedroom, bathroom, and den. Its by no means large, its one of the smallest houses in the area ( Amityville ), then again the houses around it are much nicer which makes this one look nicer as well, lol. Private beach for residents only, etc..

13BAce 09-17-2002 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Sep 16 2002, 02:47 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Sep 16 2002, 04:13 PM'][quote name='SoRRoW RPMWARZ' date='Sep 16 2002, 04:46 AM']Ok how the **** your gonna sit there and say how some place is retarded?



Shouldnt you say the government there is fucked?



We"The people of FL " Dont have much control over what the dumb asses in the government has to do or say...



About the voting thing..I personally dont give a ****..because who ever gets voted in ..alsways seem to **** up one way or another Im just glad that old **** didnt get in..



Ok about the interstate that was shut down..it wasnt a whole interstate it was a stretch we call aligator alley not the whole interstate..and if you was referring to that "hick"she was from GA not FL..





Yeah FL sucks..and we hope ignorant "Yanks"like you dont come down to the South..We love our warm weather,Clean nice beaches,Fine ass tanned girls...No salt on our roads tearing up our cars..





One of the northern peoples dream of buying a car is getting one rust free..lol



I see that your in Cali now...I hope to live inthere for a while ..give it another 6 months from now..let me see you ride around in a modded car lowered or exhast work done then ..repost seeing which state is dumber..Cali has the worse pollution and the strictest emissions..





Next time your thinking of going to spring break ..try not to decide on FL..we dont want albino yanks coming down here with them speedos on <_<

I can say whatever the hell I want. Also, my car is not my whole life. If I need to get through emmissions I get through. Cops don't give us "albinos" a hard time. :P[/quote]

<_< Ok and?...............[/quote]

Ha, I thought it was funny that one of the forum idiots came to defend the stupid. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

SoRRoW 09-17-2002 09:28 AM

I didnt come to defend the stupid..I came cause you posted about FL..

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



Get your facts straight before you like to post about an idiot..Seems your the idiot to make a dumb thread like this..



You must not have many friends..


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