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Old 07-09-2002, 05:40 PM
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I saw some where that the RX8 is a test to see if the market is there for the Rotary. If it goes well the will be another RX-7 to carry on the name. I cant remember where I saw that at.
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Old 07-09-2002, 05:56 PM
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Did it ever occur to anyone that maybe if more people BOUGHT RX-7's, they would keep making them? Mazda isnt just going to stop making a car that sells alot, they stop making a car that ISNT selling. How many of you would pony up $40,000 for a new RX-7 anyhow? Do you realize what kind of payment that is a month? Never mind insurance. I guess its the same **** everywhere, the GM guys are probably saying the same thing about the Firebird/Camaro, and we said the same thing about the seven when they stopped bringing the here, and look what happen- they come out with a RX-8, same goes for the 300ZX. I hate to break the news to you, but Mazda isnt going to keep making a car in the hopes that one of us might buy a USED one 6-8 years from now.
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Well maybe if Mazda imported more RX-7's maybe more of us would have bought them. And with the RX-8 I think it is going to be a flop. You have a four door sedan with sports car's engines that is trying to pose as a sports car. It is going to be too heavy with the engine most likely being toned down. Plus on top of that if you have four people in the car you have on average 280 extra pounds in the car. You have two extra seats along with the extra length for the seats and the weight of the platforms the extra weight of the doors the hinges and so on. Weigh to much extra weight and not enough power. I believe that you are looking at quarter mile times 1.5 or more seconds higher. And with a base price starting at 40,000 there are not going to be enough people that are going to pay that much for that little. It is evident that people on this forum would much rather pay 40 gs for a 7 than an 8. Suspension is going to be worse as well. Although it will be a little bit longer it won't be as good in the turns. I wouldn't buy a RX-8. But that is just my opinion.
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Old 07-09-2002, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowmanSteiner' date='Jul 9 2002, 07:19 PM
Well maybe if Mazda imported more RX-7's maybe more of us would have bought them. And with the RX-8 I think it is going to be a flop. You have a four door sedan with sports car's engines that is trying to pose as a sports car. It is going to be too heavy with the engine most likely being toned down. Plus on top of that if you have four people in the car you have on average 280 extra pounds in the car. You have two extra seats along with the extra length for the seats and the weight of the platforms the extra weight of the doors the hinges and so on. Weigh to much extra weight and not enough power. I believe that you are looking at quarter mile times 1.5 or more seconds higher. And with a base price starting at 40,000 there are not going to be enough people that are going to pay that much for that little. It is evident that people on this forum would much rather pay 40 gs for a 7 than an 8. Suspension is going to be worse as well. Although it will be a little bit longer it won't be as good in the turns. I wouldn't buy a RX-8. But that is just my opinion.
Most people wont buy a 8 for four people, it cuts down on insurance, they charge you more for 2 seaters, although there is no logic to it, you would figure with 2 seats there will only be 2 people to get hurt. And a 2 seater isnt "practical", meaning the fact that it has a useless back seat will kind of pursuade more people to buy it. My convertible was $27,000 before tax in 1988, most of can only afford these cars when they are used, well used. People on this forum would rather pay $40,000 for a 7 then a 8, and that would be fine if they were planning on using Monopoly money. Fact of the matter is that 95% of the people here, including myself, dont have $40,000 if Mazda were to suddenly sell the seven here again.
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Old 07-09-2002, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jul 9 2002, 09:37 PM
[quote name='SnowmanSteiner' date='Jul 9 2002, 07:19 PM']Well maybe if Mazda imported more RX-7's maybe more of us would have bought them. And with the RX-8 I think it is going to be a flop. You have a four door sedan with sports car's engines that is trying to pose as a sports car. It is going to be too heavy with the engine most likely being toned down. Plus on top of that if you have four people in the car you have on average 280 extra pounds in the car. You have two extra seats along with the extra length for the seats and the weight of the platforms the extra weight of the doors the hinges and so on. Weigh to much extra weight and not enough power. I believe that you are looking at quarter mile times 1.5 or more seconds higher. And with a base price starting at 40,000 there are not going to be enough people that are going to pay that much for that little. It is evident that people on this forum would much rather pay 40 gs for a 7 than an 8. Suspension is going to be worse as well. Although it will be a little bit longer it won't be as good in the turns. I wouldn't buy a RX-8. But that is just my opinion.
Most people wont buy a 8 for four people, it cuts down on insurance, they charge you more for 2 seaters, although there is no logic to it, you would figure with 2 seats there will only be 2 people to get hurt. And a 2 seater isnt "practical", meaning the fact that it has a useless back seat will kind of pursuade more people to buy it. My convertible was $27,000 before tax in 1988, most of can only afford these cars when they are used, well used. People on this forum would rather pay $40,000 for a 7 then a 8, and that would be fine if they were planning on using Monopoly money. Fact of the matter is that 95% of the people here, including myself, dont have $40,000 if Mazda were to suddenly sell the seven here again.[/quote]

I may have some Monopoly money lying around somewhere.
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Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jul 9 2002, 07:49 PM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jul 9 2002, 09:37 PM'][quote name='SnowmanSteiner' date='Jul 9 2002, 07:19 PM']Well maybe if Mazda imported more RX-7's maybe more of us would have bought them. And with the RX-8 I think it is going to be a flop. You have a four door sedan with sports car's engines that is trying to pose as a sports car. It is going to be too heavy with the engine most likely being toned down. Plus on top of that if you have four people in the car you have on average 280 extra pounds in the car. You have two extra seats along with the extra length for the seats and the weight of the platforms the extra weight of the doors the hinges and so on. Weigh to much extra weight and not enough power. I believe that you are looking at quarter mile times 1.5 or more seconds higher. And with a base price starting at 40,000 there are not going to be enough people that are going to pay that much for that little. It is evident that people on this forum would much rather pay 40 gs for a 7 than an 8. Suspension is going to be worse as well. Although it will be a little bit longer it won't be as good in the turns. I wouldn't buy a RX-8. But that is just my opinion.
Most people wont buy a 8 for four people, it cuts down on insurance, they charge you more for 2 seaters, although there is no logic to it, you would figure with 2 seats there will only be 2 people to get hurt. And a 2 seater isnt "practical", meaning the fact that it has a useless back seat will kind of pursuade more people to buy it. My convertible was $27,000 before tax in 1988, most of can only afford these cars when they are used, well used. People on this forum would rather pay $40,000 for a 7 then a 8, and that would be fine if they were planning on using Monopoly money. Fact of the matter is that 95% of the people here, including myself, dont have $40,000 if Mazda were to suddenly sell the seven here again.[/quote]

I may have some Monopoly money lying around somewhere.[/quote]

I also have the Star Wars Limited Edition Monopoly.
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Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jul 9 2002, 10:54 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 9 2002, 07:49 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jul 9 2002, 09:37 PM'][quote name='SnowmanSteiner' date='Jul 9 2002, 07:19 PM']Well maybe if Mazda imported more RX-7's maybe more of us would have bought them. And with the RX-8 I think it is going to be a flop. You have a four door sedan with sports car's engines that is trying to pose as a sports car. It is going to be too heavy with the engine most likely being toned down. Plus on top of that if you have four people in the car you have on average 280 extra pounds in the car. You have two extra seats along with the extra length for the seats and the weight of the platforms the extra weight of the doors the hinges and so on. Weigh to much extra weight and not enough power. I believe that you are looking at quarter mile times 1.5 or more seconds higher. And with a base price starting at 40,000 there are not going to be enough people that are going to pay that much for that little. It is evident that people on this forum would much rather pay 40 gs for a 7 than an 8. Suspension is going to be worse as well. Although it will be a little bit longer it won't be as good in the turns. I wouldn't buy a RX-8. But that is just my opinion.
Most people wont buy a 8 for four people, it cuts down on insurance, they charge you more for 2 seaters, although there is no logic to it, you would figure with 2 seats there will only be 2 people to get hurt. And a 2 seater isnt "practical", meaning the fact that it has a useless back seat will kind of pursuade more people to buy it. My convertible was $27,000 before tax in 1988, most of can only afford these cars when they are used, well used. People on this forum would rather pay $40,000 for a 7 then a 8, and that would be fine if they were planning on using Monopoly money. Fact of the matter is that 95% of the people here, including myself, dont have $40,000 if Mazda were to suddenly sell the seven here again.[/quote]

I may have some Monopoly money lying around somewhere.[/quote]

I also have the Star Wars Limited Edition Monopoly.[/quote]

How much money comes with it?
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Old 07-09-2002, 08:38 PM
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Maybe you guys have been misinformed, but the RX8 was road tested here, and

did a 0-100km in 6.0secs (0-60mph), and 13s over the quarter, it has a rigid chassis

with no B pillar, the rear suspension is very innovative and it still maintains the 50:50

weight distro of the 7s. Im looking forward to the arrival of the 8, and with 196kw from a Normally Aspirated 1.3, thats gotta give those Honda "Power per Litre" queens, a run for there money! :P
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Old 07-09-2002, 09:10 PM
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And what's all this talk about a 40K car? The local mazda dealer says it's less than 30K.
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Originally Posted by serpent12' date='Jul 9 2002, 09:38 PM
Maybe you guys have been misinformed, but the RX8 was road tested here, and

did a 0-100km in 6.0secs (0-60mph), and 13s over the quarter, it has a rigid chassis

with no B pillar, the rear suspension is very innovative and it still maintains the 50:50

weight distro of the 7s. Im looking forward to the arrival of the 8, and with 196kw from a Normally Aspirated 1.3, thats gotta give those Honda "Power per Litre" queens, a run for there money! :P
Wow! THANK YOU! And to all of you that think the RX-8 is going to be around $40k....the price hasn't been released yet. And all signs point tword the $27k-$30k range. Don't jump the gun real quick here. The M3 and M5 are both 4 dr sedans, and they're FAST in every possible way. The Toyota IS300(aka Altezza) is a decent handeling a decently quick car, and they're 4 dr. The Subaru WRX is selling great, an they're 4 dr. All of the US market point twords 4dr sporty sedans right now, is that so bad for Mazda? Maybe they can get enough revenue to actually make a new RX-7 if the 8 does good.



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